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Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance
CNSNews.com ^ | 6/13/03 | Steve Brown

Posted on 06/13/2003 8:17:51 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Dolphy
Hardly. Pedophiles endanger minors.

Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?

Show me anywhere that I suggested that either caused the same harm.

I said they made the same statements and their statements were as invalid for pedophiles as for homosexuals.

Shalom.

221 posted on 06/14/2003 7:53:51 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Qwerty
So men who lust after men but do nothing about it are straight? Interesting.

Let me put that back to you. Is a married man who lusts after women not his wife committing adultery?

Gay is a sick behavior that needs to be changed. Fortunately, it can be changed. You can claim it's my opinion and disagree, but you would be better served to listen and seek help.

Shalom.

222 posted on 06/14/2003 7:57:42 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Qwerty
As for "fistgate", that whole thing is ridiculous, and if I'm not mistaken Camenker and Whitman are being sued for illegally taping the PRIVATE conference.

Here we go again. The information was factual and totally accurate. GLSEN presenters were teaching kids how to do fisting properly, but they're not the enemy. The people who brought the information to light are the enemy and need to be punished.

Suppose Camenker and Whitman had illegally taped a group of people planning to fly airplanes into the WTC on September 11, 2001. Would you be angry at them for telling the world?

Misdirection doesn't help in this instance.

Shalom.

223 posted on 06/14/2003 7:59:59 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Qwerty
Thousands SAY they left the lifestyle, but how many continue to fantasize about gay sex? How many are actually "gay" to begin with?

Some psychologist actually did a study. He found that they actually had been gay and actually have gone straight. He was surprised, he had started his research expecting to prove the opposite. He tried to get the APA to let him hold a discussion on the matter, but the gays shut it down because they don't want anyone knowing this dirty secret.

But you go on smearing those who are trying to help. That's all you know how to do, isn't it?

Somebody will remind us all of the psychiatrist's name.

Shalom.

224 posted on 06/14/2003 8:02:15 PM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: gcruse
And who are these so-called "deity-eating religionists" you speak of? I already know your answer; do you have the courage to respond?
225 posted on 06/14/2003 8:20:18 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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To: ArGee
Robert Spizter. I would consider him more of an activist than a psyhcologist but at least he is willing to say that those who are distessed with a homosexual orientation should not be denied therapy.

For years when someone who was attracted to the same sex told a therapist that they didn't want to be, that they wanted help, they were denied and told to get used to it. Then some wonder why others are depressed and suicidal. They are basically told they have no "choices" in their own life. Only political correctness.

Voluntary therapy should be there for those that seek it. Sadly GLBT, GLAAD & other activists don't care about real people. They have an agenda.
226 posted on 06/14/2003 8:20:59 PM PDT by kuma
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To: Genesis defender
Why anybody who eats their god, of course. Yuck.
Is there something about cannabilism that is ennobling?
227 posted on 06/14/2003 8:26:50 PM PDT by gcruse (Superstition is a mind in chains.)
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To: Houmatt
Do yourself a favor, and don't EVER challenge my character again.

Ok

228 posted on 06/14/2003 8:57:20 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: ArGee
They are all behaviors.

Oh? Really?

229 posted on 06/14/2003 9:17:10 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: kuma
However, just because you disagree with other people, or in my case think you know more than other people ;OP, that doesn't translate into "bigot".

True. Only your and God know if your are a bigot. I can live with that. Can you?

230 posted on 06/14/2003 9:20:04 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Jeff Gordon
Yep, I can. I know the intent behind what I say.
231 posted on 06/14/2003 9:41:41 PM PDT by kuma
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To: Houmatt
You are such a moron!
Challenging your character is really very easy. You have some serious issues to deal with. You remind me a lot of Rev. Phelps from KS.
Here is your mindset: I'm an obsessed Bible Beater that absolutely loathes homosexuals and every thing they stand for.
Are you in denial?

232 posted on 06/14/2003 9:53:11 PM PDT by georgeisdaman
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To: kuma
Yep, I can. I know the intent behind what I say.

Kool. Pax Vobiscum.

233 posted on 06/14/2003 10:01:58 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: ArGee
I said they made the same statements and their statements were as invalid for pedophiles as for homosexuals.

In your mind they are invalid. However, how can they make the same argument when one starts from the premise of consenting adults and one from the premise of adults and children?

234 posted on 06/14/2003 10:17:45 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: georgeisdaman; Houmatt
You are such a moron!

I'm betting his IQ is somewhere north of 129, what’s yours?

Challenging your character is really very easy.

Why, what is your challenge exactly?

You have some serious issues to deal with.

Please list them.

You remind me a lot of Rev. Phelps from KS.

Oh? Does he remind you of your mother too? And why?

Here is your mindset: I'm an obsessed Bible Beater that absolutely loathes homosexuals and every thing they stand for.

Umm…where did he say, please cite his post, he hates ANYONE?

Are you in denial?

Of what, ad hominem from someone who can’t logically support their juvenile attack on a conservative? Do your parents know you’re on the Internet? But you da man dowg!

235 posted on 06/14/2003 10:40:12 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Jeff Gordon
Why does the fact that bigotry is evil bother you so very much?

You're going way off on a limb here. I am not a bigot; I am disucssing it because you are equating theoretical bigotry with pedophilia. I am saying that people who are prejudiced in their minds - or even in their speech - are NOTHING compared to pedophiles, especially as mentioned in the article that started this thread. Plus I don't consider bigotry if it is a mental attitude a huge evil. I personally don't expect everyone to love me, I don't get offended if people don't like my looks or my religion. In that sense, bigotry is stupid.

But if by bigotry you mean people who consider homosexual behavior unhealthy and unnatural, this isn't bigotry. it is using common sense.

236 posted on 06/15/2003 12:46:53 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Jeff Gordon
Why does the fact that bigotry is evil bother you so very much?

You're going way off on a limb here. I am not a bigot; I am disucssing it because you are equating theoretical bigotry with pedophilia. I am saying that people who are prejudiced in their minds - or even in their speech - are NOTHING compared to pedophiles, especially as mentioned in the article that started this thread. Plus I don't consider bigotry if it is a mental attitude a huge evil. I personally don't expect everyone to love me, I don't get offended if people don't like my looks or my religion. In that sense, bigotry is stupid.

But if by bigotry you mean people who consider homosexual behavior unhealthy and unnatural, this isn't bigotry. it is using common sense.

237 posted on 06/15/2003 12:46:54 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Jeff Gordon
Why does the fact that bigotry is evil bother you so very much?

You're going way off on a limb here. I am not a bigot; I am disucssing it because you are equating theoretical bigotry with pedophilia. I am saying that people who are prejudiced in their minds - or even in their speech - are NOTHING compared to pedophiles, especially as mentioned in the article that started this thread. Plus I don't consider bigotry if it is a mental attitude a huge evil. I personally don't expect everyone to love me, I don't get offended if people don't like my looks or my religion. In that sense, bigotry is stupid.

But if by bigotry you mean people who consider homosexual behavior unhealthy and unnatural, this isn't bigotry. it is using common sense.

238 posted on 06/15/2003 12:47:00 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Sorry about the multiples, either my server or the internet is/was acting weird...
239 posted on 06/15/2003 12:53:00 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
I am not a bigot;

That's nice.

240 posted on 06/15/2003 1:04:45 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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