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Dry toilet advocates claim the devices have advantages but concede there is the issue of routine emptying of excrement from the toilets.

Maybe thee environmentalists can start an organization composed of volunteers from their ranks to do the emptying. It shouldn't really bother them, they are used to shoveling bulls... um, nevermind.

1 posted on 06/12/2003 2:27:25 AM PDT by kattracks
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I really wonder if any of these idiots involved in this anti-flush toilet movement ever grew up in a home without indoor plumbing? Fighting snakes on the "path", freezing your can off on cold nights, and all the other assorted hassles involved.

If not, maybe they should spend a week or two with chamber pots and outhouses just to get some perspective.

I like my flush toilet. I earned it. I dont care how many gallons of water it wastes, I am keeping it. I wish it used a lot more water, like the older ones they were successful in banning.

Enough of these liberals. I cant even use the bathroom in peace!

34 posted on 06/12/2003 5:00:40 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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Proponents of dry toilets, set to convene at the first annual international Dry Toilet 2003 conference in Tampere, Finland, August 20-23, warn of "environmental disaster" if developing nations aspire to flush toilets so prevalent in the industrialized world.

Anybody know who pays for this idiocy? "Dry Toilet 2003"?

37 posted on 06/12/2003 5:19:26 AM PDT by jimt
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????
39 posted on 06/12/2003 5:24:44 AM PDT by Trueblackman (<-----------------------------------------This thread has left Trueblackman speechless)
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Environmental wackos flow down hill. Payday is Friday. I think I've got it.
41 posted on 06/12/2003 5:29:07 AM PDT by openotherend (I'm their leader! Which way did they go?)
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first annual international Dry Toilet 2003 conference

I think we need a logo contest for this to help them out with their t-shirt design.

42 posted on 06/12/2003 5:29:25 AM PDT by FourPeas
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Here are the keynote speakers at the conference and the title of their addresses:

Kaarin Taipale, Finland: "What is the colour of sustainable development"

Jan-Olof Drangert, Sweden: "A history of mental views on the re-use of human-rerived nutrients" The last part of the abstract states: The last part of the paper will focus on views among residents to eating food produced with the help of human-derived fertilisers.

Ron Sawyer, Mexico: "Sanitation as if it really mattered: Getting toilets out of the (water) closet and into the loop"

Martin Oldenburg, Germany: "Toilets for the re-use of natural resources - Examples and Applications"

44 posted on 06/12/2003 5:35:37 AM PDT by FourPeas
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Here in vermont there are a lot of back to earth types including those with no electricity at all in their homes. Now if that is their choice that is fine I don't have a problem at all but I can see the out cry against toilets bginning.

We were house shopping a while back and found what looked like a very nice home at considerably under market value. After speaking to the home owner we learned it was because there were no conventional toilets in the home. The toilets dumped into a big vat in the basement which had to be shoveled out from time to time. Where it was to be shoveled to, I had no idea.
45 posted on 06/12/2003 5:39:40 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Freedom: America's finest export.)
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This is series... I'm off to flush the toilet...
46 posted on 06/12/2003 5:41:49 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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Isn't it funny how when these tree-huggers have something to SELL, all of a sudden they can find numerous 'ENVIRONMENTAL' fault with successful methods that have been used for hundreds of years?

They obviously don't remember the stench, flies, and other problems with OUTDOOR TOILETS...or having to go out and empty the "slop jar" at 8am when it's -10 degrees outside.

This guy is trying to get attention, and get the water toilet outlawed (a la Freon) so he can sell his product (a la new Freon).

This will be about as popular as "NEW Coke" was.
47 posted on 06/12/2003 5:45:42 AM PDT by FrankR
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> "Thirteen percent of Africans have a sewage
> connection; that is, a flushing toilet leading to a
> sewage system, while for North America, the figure
> is 100 percent and Europe 92 percent," said Dingle.

1) Where's the missing 8% in Europe? France? Just go on the sidewalk, I guess.

2) I giggle like a schoolgirl that someone named "dingle" is talking about topics scatological.



48 posted on 06/12/2003 6:04:29 AM PDT by Mixed Grill
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"...the first annual international Dry Toilet 2003 conference in Tampere, Finland..."

...........now there's a hoppin' conference that's a "don't miss"....................put on yer party hats, boys....................

49 posted on 06/12/2003 6:05:32 AM PDT by RightOnline
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If they outlaw toilets, only outlaws will have toilets.


If they wanna outlaw flush toilets, they're gonna have to pry mine from my cold, dead butt.
50 posted on 06/12/2003 6:10:13 AM PDT by ChicagoGuy
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Flush Toilets Called 'Environmental Disaster'

What is the deal with CNS? I thought they were on our side. How come we get the standard liberal headline, where the environmentalist claim receives top billing?

Tree Huggers Advocate Disease, Foul Smells for Third World. That's much better.


51 posted on 06/12/2003 6:11:48 AM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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52 posted on 06/12/2003 6:15:43 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Plus de fromage, s'il vous plait...)
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they can pry my flush handle from my cold dead hands
53 posted on 06/12/2003 6:20:53 AM PDT by rattrap
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The largest water uses in a home are toilet flushing and clothes washing. I can't understand why homes are not built with a 10-20 gallon water storage tank with overflow valve in the attic. The water pump in a washing machine could be used to pump water from the washer to the storage tank, where it is then piped back down to fill the flush toilets, so that the wash water is used twice. Combine this with a toilet that has a divided two-flush tank, 1.5 gallons for #1 and 3-4 gallons for #2.
54 posted on 06/12/2003 6:27:41 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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Yep, bring back the two- and three-holers and the slop jars under every bed (for those cold winter nights).

And the typhoid and cholera and other diseases attendant thereon.

Or just go out in the cornfield. Now that's DRY.


55 posted on 06/12/2003 6:38:22 AM PDT by Ole Okie (Real bright on the part of the environmentalists.)
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Proponents of dry toilets, set to convene at the first annual international Dry Toilet 2003 conference in Tampere, Finland, August 20-23, warn of "environmental disaster" if developing nations aspire to flush toilets so prevalent in the industrialized world.

Oh man..more stuff that makes me embarassed to be a Finn.

59 posted on 06/12/2003 6:57:04 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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Sounds like they mean composting toilets, which would be great for cabins or boats. But in a home? When you can have high volume use? Not to mention incidents of diarrhea and vomiting. These guys are nuts.
60 posted on 06/12/2003 6:59:46 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kattracks; dighton; Poohbah; general_re; aculeus; L,TOWM; Constitution Day
When I entered the service in 1972, I was told a story about the outdoor latrines used in Vietnam by my squad leader who had done three tours there:

Of course, the latrine was called the "sh*thouse" and it was a small wooden one-hole outhouse. The effluent was collected in a 55-gallon drum underneath the hole in the bench and the procedure was that, when the drum was full or once a day, the lowest Private in the unit was detailed to remove the drum from the latrine to a disposal area, pour in a diesel/gasoline mixture, and set it afire. The waste was pretty much burned down to a fairly dry semi-solid mass which was then buried in the waste dump.

One day, the most junior Private (who was also the most recently-arrived in-country) was detailed to perform the waste-disposal duties. The sergeant neglected to specifically instruct him in those duties and simply used the terms used everyday by those working the detail ...

"Private ****, go burn the sh*thouse."

And he did ... he burned the whole latrine to the ground.

Don't know if it's true or not, but that's what my old sergeant said.

61 posted on 06/12/2003 7:07:15 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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