[ReagansShinyHair]

"One big government benefit is that teachers like other government employees are exempt from paying Social Security. They may have to pay into various state run pension plans, but those usually have a better R. O. I. than Social inSecurity. Non-governmental employees are "required" to pay for the Ponzi Scheme."

Ahh, but what about people who paid into Social Security and then became teachers? They do not get to collect their social security, it is lost for all time. If their spouse worked for 35 years and paid to SS all that time and then dies, the teacher does not get SS.

Also, what about the $1000 per year the union steals out of a teacher's paycheck? In CA you can refuse to join, but they take your money anyway. You have to pay it all up front, and they donate it to charity of their choice.

What about the $2000-$3000 I've spent on teacher supplies each year? I'm sure you've spent $200/month on supplies to bring to your job this year, right?

[laredo44]

If their spouse worked for 35 years and paid to SS all that time and then dies, the teacher does not get SS.

I don't believe your statement is true. Spouses do get to collect SS.

What about the $2000-$3000 I've spent on teacher supplies each year?

Another statement I don't believe. Why don't you detail for us the supplies you bought this past year that cost $2000-$3000.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"$200/month"

I have to spend far more than that just on clothes. We computer geeks spend thousands each year just on books and software. Computers account for a few more thousand.

Want the education, a REAL education, not that "Education degree" crap? Try $40,000 for for the bach and $65,000+ for that grad degree. Post grad is $90,000+. Training each year better be paid by the employer or a computer geek could easily spend $5,000 on that each year.

[glory]

I bet when you factor in the health insurance premiums that people in the private sector pay for, you could call it even, but to answer your question, yes, many professionals have to pay for their own supplies--some are reimbursed through the company, other can be written off, but you can expect to probably put out a couple grand that is just out of pocket. I can't believe someone who would call themself "teacher" would presume they are the only profession who must work overtime, provide their own supplies on occasion, etc. And you all wonder why you are getting a bad wrap. When you are acting as though you are the only working and deserving American worker out there, you better believe you are going to hear crap for it!

[reg45]

what about the $1000 per year the union steals out of a teacher's paycheck? In CA you can refuse to join, but they take your money anyway.

In my opinion, that violates the "involuntary servitude" clause of the Thirteenth Amendment.