Toddler Killed In Alleged 'Boxing Match' With Adult Man

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[honeygrl]

"the baby was sleeping on the sofa and fell 18 inches to the floor, causing massive internal hemorrhaging"

Yep, that's crap for sure. I know a couple who's 2mth old fell 2feet from the bed to the hardwood floor face first and not even a bruise or anything from it. He cried a while but Dr. said he was fine.

[honeygrl]

"Another baby dies at the hands of a step-male-something-or-other."

the story says friend not step anything. Step dads can be wonderful things when daddy decides he doesn't want to be around anymore. I'm sure a lot of people here have either stepkids are are step parents themselves.

[netmilsmom]

>>"Moms, protect your children."

I hope you mean "parents" protect your children. There is no mention of the baby's father here. Why? He shoulkd have some responsibility for the childs welfare (and i don't mean checks) <<


You're right, however being a mom, I took it all from a mom's point of view. From my husband's point of view, the scum would be skinned.

[netmilsmom]

>>Women DO need to protect their children better than they often do, but it is not yet to the point where it is always irresponsible to leave children in an unrelated man's care! Many, many men become daddies to children they didn't sire, and do good, not harm. <<

But why take that chance. I have one chance with my children. One chance for hurt, one chance for killed. I could not live with myself if something happened to them because I took that chance. You may be a lovely man, but I am a mother cat when it comes to my kids.

[netmilsmom]

>>Some women just have no other choice<<

Sorry, I don't buy that. We all have choices, some just make bad ones.

[ctlpdad]

Skinning the scumbag would be a good START.

[honeygrl]

"But why take that chance. I have one chance with my children. One chance for hurt, one chance for killed. I could not live with myself if something happened to them because I took that chance. You may be a lovely man, but I am a mother cat when it comes to my kids."

Well, a woman could just as easily do just as much harm to a child she's babysitting as a man can. I mean, there are many women who just have no other choice than to have a babysitter at times. But check out the thread on the female babysitter leaving a 1yr old in the hot hot car while she took her own kids into the store with her. Heck, these days, family members aren't even completely safe to leave kids with when you just can't take them with you. It's hard to know who to trust anymore. The only non-related sitter I've ever used is my brother's girlfriend. She's 19 and I trust her totally with my kids. She's not allowed to take the children anywhere though and does the babysitting in my home and not hers. That's not an issue of trust though, it's an issue of my toddler being difficult in public and I don't wish that chore on anyone.

[honeygrl]

"Sorry, I don't buy that. We all have choices, some just make bad ones."

So what's the choice for a working single mother when the father doesn't want to help? Feed off the government so she can stay home?

[ChemistCat]

I'm not a man...I just happen to know some good ones who can be trusted with children. In fact, I don't believe I know even one person, personally, male or female, who would deliberately harm a child. That's all I'm saying. We can let the news bend our thinking to the point where we can't trust anybody...and then we end up with hothouse kids who have induced social phobias.

My son has a male teacher...and I think the world of him. My husband is also becoming a teacher. It grieves me that things are harder for good people like these, because of selfish psychopaths who get so much attention.

Remember the man who was running the store when the little girl in San Jose got away from her abductor and rapist. He didn't harm the girl--he took care of her and made sure the police came. If the world didn't have far more men like him than criminal men, we just flat out couldn't function at all.

[honeygrl]

I totally agree with you.

[Alamo-Girl]

Jeepers... Thanks for the heads up!

[JesseHousman]

Leslie said he didn't mean to hurt Taylor, and considered him part of the family.

If Leslie hated Taylor there wouldn't be enough to bury.

[netmilsmom]

>>So what's the choice for a working single mother when the father doesn't want to help? Feed off the government so she can stay home?<<

No, Pick a woman to watch your child.

[honeygrl]

"No, Pick a woman to watch your child. "

And you think a woman isn't capable of something just as bad? Hunt down the thread on the babysitter (female) who left the 1 yr old she was watching in the hot car while she and her friend took her own kids in the store to shop.

[JoeSixPack1]

If nature was left to it's own course, morons like this one would have been bred out of the gene pool a few hundred years ago.

But we can try to catch up by putting this one to sleep immediately following the legalities.

[Amore]

Sure, a woman COULD but it's a lot less likely that she WILL. That's just a statistical fact.

Besides, while I think anyone who leaves a kid in a hot car should be horsewhipped, it still usually involves a lot less evil intent than is required for battering a child to death with your bare hands.

[netmilsmom]

>>And you think a woman isn't capable of something just as bad? Hunt down the thread on the babysitter (female) who left the 1 yr old she was watching in the hot car while she and her friend took her own kids in the store to shop.<<

Yup, you're right. Women do nasty things as well. Better idea to choose a good man to marry and not have children before you find him. Have a good network of support and do not let your children out of your site.

Ask Dr. Laura.

[netmilsmom]

Wow you're young. I can see where you are coming from. Your profile says you are a stay at home mom. What happened there?

Just say it's NOMB and I say no more.

[honeygrl]

"Wow you're young. I can see where you are coming from. Your profile says you are a stay at home mom. What happened there? "

I'm a stay home mom because my hubby makes enough so that I can stay home with our kids. I luckily don't have to leave my kids with a sitter very often and it's usually my mom or my brother's girlfriend. I just have known women before who's hubby's had left them and had no choice but daycare or in-home daycare or they just couldn't afford to live on one income. Did that answer the question you were asking? I wasn't sure exactly how you meant "what happened there?" I've often thought about sending my toddler son to daycare for a day or two a week to play with other kids his age but it's way too expensive around here.

[ChemistCat]

I'm just wondering if we are thinking this through.

When I was a kid I had LOTS AND LOTS of freedom. I rode my bike, sometimes alone, miles away from home. I had male teachers as well as female teachers. I was often alone in the house of a friend, with the friend's father present. I was well into adolescence before anyone ever laid a hand on me, and I dealt with that as well as anyone does--but when I was a kid I was safe and I was free. I didn't fear people. I knew about the "don't talk to strangers" thing but it was abstract, like "don't use your hairdryer in the bathtub." The reasons for the fear never came up.

But OUR kids are growing up made prisoners by parental fear. By 11 I was not only home alone a lot--I was often way out from home with only "be back by dark" as a restriction on me. My parents weren't irresponsible, either. It was just the way things were back then.

Now? My 11 year old has never yet been around the block on his own. I see a lack of resourcefulness, a timidity, a lack of imagination, a rigidity in the thinking of all the children I know whose parents, like you and me, are aware of the pervs and the psychopaths who seem to surround us. The normal children, who are given the traditional running room, are still there.

Who will be successful as adults? The hothouse kids, or the ones who spend summers running free?

We fear letting our sons go to the men's rooms, so even as they approach adolescence, we take them in the ladies' room with us, and glare at anyone who has a problem with that. But maybe we should all have a problem with that. Because one out of ten thousand men may hurt a kid, we limit our children, imprison them, keep them from meeting the nine-thousand-nine-hundred-ninety-nine who might have something positive to offer them. Ever watch Barney with your toddlers? Winnie the Pooh? Any kids' movie? It must seem freakishly alien to our children that here are these children running free, having social interaction with strangers, learning how to meet and learn from people they didn't know before, people nobody vouched for....

We have let the liberals convince us that the sociopaths can be punished, rehabilitated, freed. We let them run free among us. We let the press scare the snot out of us at every turn. So we damage our own children in the name of protecting them....

Have you thought about this? What message are we sending our kids when we start to believe that it is negligence to allow them contact with other people?