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O.J. Forensics Expert Consulted in Peterson Case
Fox News ^ | Monday, June 09, 2003 | Fox News

Posted on 06/11/2003 5:28:55 AM PDT by runningbear

O.J. Forensics Expert Consulted in Peterson Case

Monday, June 09, 2003

MODESTO, Calif. — Yet another high-profile expert has been consulted in the Scott Peterson (search) murder case -- this one the forensic specialist who was involved in the O.J. Simpson trial, Fox News has learned.

Dr. Henry Lee confirmed to Fox News that both the defense and the prosecution in the Peterson case have contacted him, but whether he'll be testifying at the upcoming preliminary hearing -- or at the trial -- isn't known.

If Lee does testify or provide guidance, he told Fox News he'll, "look at the evidence and let the chips fall."

Lee is the second of the O.J. cast of characters to surface in the Peterson case. The other is Gloria Allred (search), who is the attorney for Peterson's extramarital former girlfriend, Amber Frey (search), and has served as counsel for the family of Nicole Brown Simpson in the past.

The two highly publicized murder cases have been compared with some frequency in the media. Both involve California husbands accused of killing their wives, both managed to attract a list of celebrity attorneys and experts and both garnered heavy media attention.

In the Simpson criminal trial, the former pro-football player was found innocent of the murders of his wife, Nicole, and her friend, Ronald Goldman -- but a civil jury found him liable for the killings.

In other Peterson case developments, his distraught former girlfriend met with prosecutors over the weekend about her potential testimony in the preliminary hearing.

A source close to Frey told Fox News that she and Allred met with prosecutors in Modesto, Calif., Saturday to discuss the possibility that Frey would take the stand in the hearing, set for July, to discuss wiretapped conversations she had with Peterson.

The judge in the criminal case has been considering a gag order to prevent more leaks from the defense and prosecution -- and could make his decision as early as Monday.

Allred said a gag would hurt her client and scare others away from coming forward with information.

"A gag order against Ms. Frey would render her helpless in the face of a continued onslaught of rumor and innuendo," Allred said.

Superior Court Judge Al Girolami has thus far declined to issue a gag order on lawyers, but hasn't ruled out the possibility.

The source also said Frey, a 28-year-old single mother and massage therapist, was very upset about the possible upcoming release of nude photographs of her. Hustler publisher Larry Flynt (search) is currently in hot pursuit of nude photos of Frey, which she says are unauthorized for publication.

The source told Fox News that Frey, who has said she didn't know Peterson was married when she dated him, is still feeling overwhelmed by all that's happened.

Meanwhile, Fox News has learned of a leak in the case involving a theory that Peterson might have drugged his wife. Peterson was apparently surfing the Web for the so-called date-rape drug GHB in the weeks before Laci was killed.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder for allegedly killing his wife and their unborn son. Laci, 27, was eight-months pregnant when she disappeared from the couple's Modesto home on Christmas Eve.

Her body and that of the baby washed up in April on the shores of San Francisco Bay, where Peterson said he was fishing the day of her disappearance.

On Friday, in a rare show of emotion, Peterson dabbed his eyes as a judge decided not to release the autopsy reports for Laci and the couple's unborn son, Conner. Peterson has been criticized for his lack of emotion since Laci vanished.

Prosecutors had asked last week that the autopsy results be unsealed after the defense leaked select portions of the document including details about the condition of Conner's body, which was found with a gash in the shoulder and tape around the neck.

Analysts said the autopsy results could be used to bolster a defense argument that Laci was kidnapped by a satanic cult. But some forensic pathologists believe the damage likely occurred naturally, in the four months that the body was underwater.

Earlier Friday, Girolami ruled that wiretaps of Peterson's phone conversations should be released to his lawyers. The prosecution will also receive copies of the tapes, except for accidentally recorded conversations between Peterson and his lawyers.

Girolami set a June 26 date to rule on defense motions regarding the wiretaps.

Peterson's lawyers want the judge to toss out the results of two wiretaps that monitored thousands of his calls after his wife's disappearance.

During the court-approved wiretaps, the first of which began two weeks after Laci vanished, police logged 3,858 phone calls made to Scott, according to court papers.

A judge approved the wiretap of Scott's phone Jan. 10 after prosecutors showed there was probable cause to believe a crime was committed. They discontinued the surveillance Feb. 4 after it no longer produced results.

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Experts: No Proof of Satanic Cults

Tuesday, June 10, 2003

By C. Spencer Beggs

The Laci Peterson (search) case has all the makings of a made-for-TV movie: murder, sex, infidelity and most incredibly, an alleged satanic cult.

Scott Peterson's (search) defense attorney, Mark Geragos (search), has suggested that a satanic cult abducted and killed Laci, citing reports of a mysterious brown van seen outside the Petersons' Modesto, Calif., home around the time the 8-months-pregnant woman vanished.

They also say that a noose-like wrapping of tape around her unborn son's neck when it washed ashore may have been the work of such a cult.

But experts on ritual abuse, abduction and satanism say that satanic cult slayings are more myth than murder.

“I don’t think there’s any compelling evidence that satanic cults exist,” Bill Ellis, an associate professor of English and American Studies at Penn State University and past president of the International Society for Contemporary Legend Research, told Fox News.

This may come as a surprise to those who have heard about satanic cults from popular books and talk shows. But according to Ellis and other experts, organized satanic killings are nothing more than hysteria that surfaced in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

The so-called “satanic panic” began when mental health professionals started reporting cases of their patients recalling sexual abuse by parents or close family friends. About 17 percent of these patients recalled a ritualized type of abuse in occult settings.

In 1980, a psychological patient, Michelle Smith, and her psychiatrist as well as future husband, Dr. Lawrence Pazder, published a book, Michelle Remembers, purporting to be Smith’s account of surviving ritual abuse by satanists as a child. Michelle Remembers and books like it set off a wave of speculation about underground satanic organizations; tabloids, talk shows and respectable news organizations alike followed up on multiplying allegations of satanic cults abducting, abusing and murdering innocent people.

But experts say after all that hype, there was never any credible evidence that satanic cults existed at all.

A 1992 FBI report that investigated over 12,000 allegations of illegal activity by satanic groups in the U.S. concluded that there was no evidence of satanic cults operating in the country. Similar large-scale studies by Great Britain and the Netherlands came to the same conclusion.

Many of the “victims” of satanic abuse were, in fact, victims of unsafe psychological examination techniques that led to the development of False Memory Syndrome, a psychological disorder where patients develop memories that they believe to be of real events but are actually caused by suggestion from a therapist. Subsequent investigations into the majority of satanic abuse allegations found them to be hoaxes.

Jeffrey Victor, author of Satanic Panic: The Creation of a Contemporary Legend and a former professor of sociology at the State University of New York, says that the satanic hysteria was fueled by special interest groups that perpetuated the myth of satanic cults to advance their ideology or make money. These groups included fundamentalist Protestant sects, feminist organizations, seminar presenters for law enforcement, social workers, psychologists, shock journalists and talk shows, Victor says.

“There are no satanic cults as organizations, not even as minuscule groups,” Victor told Fox News.

Victor pointed out that there have been cases in which individuals have committed crimes and then claimed to be satanists after the fact. Most of these cases, however, involved severely disturbed individuals who knew little or nothing about satanism, he said. Even in cases in which the perpetrators really believed themselves to be satanists, the culprits did not belong to any sort of organization or belief system, and the methods they used to dispose of their victims did not fulfill any type of ritual.

Ellis said that the physical description of the bodies in the leaked parts of the Peterson autopsy don’t resemble any descriptions of satanic rituals of which he has ever heard.

“I think what the defense is saying is there’s some weird details in the autopsy report and there must be some weird circumstances that brought them about. It’s a fancy, dramatic way of saying, ‘We don’t know who’s responsible for this, so we’ll assume the worst.’”

But if there’s no reason to believe in satanic cults, why is the defense pushing the satanic cult theory?

Geragos might be using the satanic cult theory to elicit sympathy for Scott Peterson in the potential jury pool, said Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew P. Napolitano.

“His initial goal is to neutralize Scott in the public’s mentality, to give the public a reason to pause before judging him innocent or guilty,” Napolitano said.

He said this strategy could be beneficial for a defense that needs to “undemonize” Peterson in the eyes of the public, but he warned that it could backfire if Geragos doesn’t substantiate his claims with concrete evidence after the prosecution .................

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Peterson lawyers subpoena judge in wiretap dispute

Peterson lawyers subpoena judge in wiretap dispute

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 Posted: 2109 GMT ( 5:09 AM HKT)

MODESTO, California (CNN) -- Lawyers for Scott Peterson have subpoenaed the judge who approved a wiretap on Scott Peterson's telephone, arguing he violated rules governing a capital murder case, court officials said Tuesday.

Judge Wray Ledine allowed police to intercept Peterson's phone calls beginning in January and met with investigators for updates as they built a case. Defense attorney Kirk McAllister said that under California rules governing a death penalty case, Ledine should have had a court reporter present during those meetings, but did not.

Prosecutors argue the proceedings weren't a capital case until April, when the bodies of Peterson's missing wife, Laci, and their unborn son turned up on the shores of San Francisco Bay.

Scott Peterson faces two counts of murder in the deaths of Laci Peterson, 27, and their unborn child. He has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder in the case; prosecutors have said they will seek the death penalty if he is convicted.

The victims' bodies were found about 80 miles from their home, near the marina where Scott Peterson said he had launched his boat on a fishing trip Christmas Eve, the day his wife disappeared.

Scott Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos, has accused prosecutors of "grave" misconduct over how they handled the wiretaps. Peterson's lawyers said the monitoring of the phone calls violated attorney-client privilege.

Prosecutors said the wiretap intercepted 69 phone calls between Peterson and McAllister. But they said investigators monitored and recorded only short segments of two of the 69 calls, and did not collect information protected by attorney-client privilege.

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Larry King: CNN's dumbest hour

June 11, 2003

BY PHIL ROSENTHAL TELEVISION CRITIC

The mind boggles at what the many hard-working, serious-minded and often modestly compensated broadcast journalists who toil in earnest at CNN must make of the well-heeled, carefully coiffed caricature who prides himself on not being a newsman yet somehow remains the network's most identifiable personality.

They put their lives on the line in hot spots around the world, strive to put complex geopolitical issues into focus and sort out what's important from what is not in an effort to lure back some of the viewers their network's audience, all so at 8 each weeknight (with repeats at 11 p.m. and 2 a.m.) Larry King can singlehandedly sink the CNN claim that it takes real news more seriously than its rivals.

It's been said before. It's worth saying again. Nearly 20 years removed from the glory days of his once-fascinating overnight radio show, this guy does more harm than good to CNN--even as host of its top-rated show.

So at what point does CNN wise up and rein in "Larry King Live" to save itself?

More a courtier than an interviewer even under the best of circumstances, the oft-married King is at present squandering his prime-time hour on CNN by obsessing over a woman. A dead woman. Laci Peterson.

It can be argued that Peterson's disappearance and subsequent murder is noteworthy, but not to the extent "Larry King Live" would make you think it is. Going into his much-publicized chat Tuesday with author/ politician Hillary Clinton, who has nothing to do with Laci, five of King's previous eight shows had dwelled on the Peterson murder case.

Judging from "Larry King Live"--or "Laci Peterson Dead," as it's apt to be called--this is the second biggest story of the year, marginally trailing the war in Iraq. And by year's end, who knows? That little dustup with Saddam may pale by comparison.

Since April 18th, in fact, King has done 38 shows and the Peterson case has been a significant portion of 17 of them, a ridiculous figure that doesn't count the questions he asked guest Diane Sawyer on May 7th about her interview with Scott Peterson, Laci's husband and accused killer.

The Peterson murder was the focus of four King shows in January and six in February before things heated up in Iraq. No less than seven April shows dealt with the Peterson case, six in May and three to date in June.

So often is Peterson a topic that Nancy Grace, a Court TV analyst, is logging almost as much time playing Kukla to King's Fran Allison as she is on her own little-watched cable network. She's been the resident expert on the Peterson case, but she's also been a commentator for other cases as well.

"I'm not saying Martha is innocent," Grace told King last week, advising prosecutors on how to finish convicting Martha Stewart. "I'm saying you better evaluate your case before you go forward. Is anybody dead? No. Anybody dismembered? No. The jury's going to think, 'Why are we here?' "

Sounds like she's reciting a potential rationale for King poring over the remains of Laci and her unborn child each night.

Grace actually fills in for King tonight as guest host. She's scheduled to revisit the 2002 abduction of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam, but don't be surprised if the Peterson case is mentioned a few times. It wouldn't be "Live" if she wasn't.

Now you might want to write off King's bizarre concentration on Peterson as part of some ratings-driven network directive, except that his guests in the past month have included John Eisenhower (son of the former president), Carol Channing and her new husband, Rodney Dangerfield, Lynn Redgrave, Willard Scott, psychic Sylvia Browne, Robert Kennedy Jr., Bob Jones and the cast of "60 Minutes."

No ratings-driven network directive in this day and age of youth-obsessed demographics is going to push anyone to talk to those people. The only recent "Live" guests to qualify as real ratings draws are Dr. Phil McGraw or "American Idol" finalists Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken.

To an outsider, it would make more sense to play off whatever is the big news of the day (the way news programs such as ABC's "Nightline," Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor," MSNBC's "Countdown With Keith Olbermann" and most others do). But this concept has become foreign to King and "Larry King Live."

June 2nd is a perfect example. President Bush had just left the G-8 Economic Summit, where he met with French leader Jacques Chirac for the first time since Chirac voiced opposition to military action in Iraq, and was headed to the Middle East to advance his roadmap for peace.CNN viewers looking to King and his guests to lend some perspective to these major events were in for a real treat.

King was schmoozing Larry Hagman, Bill Daily and Barbara Eden, the cast of the 1965-70 NBC sitcom "I Dream of Jeannie." An "EXCLUSIVE" label dominated a corner of the screen, as if to say "Nyah, nyah, nyah! We got an interview no one else wanted!"

At least it wasn't another hour dedicated to Laci Peterson........

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Defense presses judge on wiretaps

Defense presses judge on wiretaps

By JOHN COTÉ
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 10, 2003, 06:32:21 AM PDT

One of Scott Peterson's attorneys said Monday that he has subpoenaed a Superior Court judge to get information about wiretaps used by investigators probing the disappearance of Laci Peterson.

The move comes after it was revealed Friday that no court reporter was present during meetings between Judge Wray Ladine, a prosecutor and an investigator about the wiretaps.

"I don't know how else you get that information other than doing it this way," defense attorney Kirk McAllister said.

District Attorney James Brazelton is seeking the death penalty against Peterson, 30, for allegedly killing his wife and unborn son, Conner.

The absence of a court reporter at the meetings also raises legal questions about the wiretaps, several defense attorneys not affiliated with the case said.

Senior deputy district attorneys Dave Harris and Rick Distaso, who are prosecuting Peterson, were involved in a previous death penalty case where the indictment was thrown out by an appeals court because no court reporter was present during a grand jury hearing.

They say this issue is different.

State law requires a court reporter to be present during all court proceedings in capital cases. Prosecutors contend the law applies only to proceedings that take place after a criminal complaint is filed or a grand jury is convened for an indictment. That hadn't occurred when the wiretap meetings took place.

McAllister said he issued the subpoena Monday and that it likely would be served today.

Defense attorneys also have asked to question Distaso and the lead wiretap investigator, Steve Jacobson.

Ladine, contacted by phone Monday night, said he was unaware of a subpoena and forbidden by judicial rules from commenting.

Peterson was arrested April 18. He has pleaded not guilty, and the defense has vowed to find the "real killers."

Lead defense attorney Mark Geragos is alleging that the Stanislaus County district attorney's office engaged in "grave prosecutorial misconduct" after authorities intercepted 71 calls between Peterson and McAllister or his investigator.

The defense might seek to have the district attorney's office removed from the case over the wiretap issue, according to documents they filed in court.

Prosecutors maintain that investigators listened to less than two minutes of total calls and that the wiretaps were consistent with state and federal law.

The wiretap meetings among the judge, prosecutor and investigator took place every three days during the first wiretap, which ran from Jan. 10 to Feb. 4, according to prosecution documents.

Ladine indicated at a Jan. 17 meeting that some of the techniques used in the wiretaps were "inappropriate" and "could cause problems," according to an affidavit filed by Jacobson.

"Judge Ladine was concerned about the district attorneys' office using a wiretap to obtain statements from a suspect who had counsel and had already expressed to police that he didn't wish to make any statements," Jacobson wrote.

At the meeting, Ladine instructed investigators to halt spot checks of calls between Peterson and his attorney.

State law allows for 30-second spot checks of privileged communications, but defense attorneys maintain that attorney-client calls are "totally privileged under the law."

Several defense attorneys said the absence of a court reporter raises serious legal questions about the wiretaps, while prosecutors maintain there was no impropriety.

California law requires that in any death penalty case "all proceedings conducted in the Superior Court, including all conferences and proceedings, whether in open court, in conference in the courtroom, or in chambers, shall be conducted on the record with a court reporter present."

The reason, according to a July 2002 decision from the Fifth District Court of Appeal in Fresno, is because "the death penalty is qualitatively different, even when compared to a life sentence."

The court threw out the indictment against Terry Dale Dustin of Gustine because Distaso had instructed the court reporter to leave during part of the grand jury proceeding. Distaso and Dave Harris also handled Dustin's grand jury indictment.

Prosecutors had initially sought the death penalty against Dustin for the 1999 stabbing death of Santiago Garcia of Gustine, who was killed in southwestern Stanislaus County. Dustin pleaded guilty last month to second-degree murder and first-degree burglary, court records show. He is scheduled to be sentenced later this month.

Martha Carlton, the deputy public defender who represented Dustin, said the appeals court ruling in Dustin applies to the wiretap conferences in the Peterson case.

"Once you do decide you're going to proceed criminally, anything.........

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To: runningbear
BUBBA

victor/victoria is just a picture on the wall...

41 posted on 06/11/2003 11:25:13 AM PDT by Queen Jadis
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To: justshe
exactly. I agree with you. I do NOT expect Geragos to be successful at this attempt to remove the Prosecutors. It was an "investigation" at the time. What a royal JackA$$!! Did ya catch a glimpse of their "star" witness?? FOFL!! As to Henry Lee, I suspect he may be a little more careful this time, because his "good name" is beginning to suffer. Even I emailed him and told him I had lost ALL respect for him. Told him that a Forensic Scientists testimony should NEVER be for sale and directly undermines the entire Justice System.
42 posted on 06/11/2003 12:20:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I think the race issue was a much bigger impediment to an all Black (fairly uneducated) Jury than anything Geragos has. Peterson certainly can't claim anything like that. I think they are going to attempt to pick apart the work of LE.
43 posted on 06/11/2003 12:30:11 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Howlin
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! That's the SECOND time you've done that to me. LOL Oh do I remember that!
44 posted on 06/11/2003 12:33:05 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I think I will come over and hang out with you guys for the rest of the afternoon; I'm getting my butt kicked on the Israeli bombing thread. UGH.
45 posted on 06/11/2003 12:38:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yaelle
They apparently had a computer EACH. They took both computers but found a wealth of evidence on his computer. It would interesting to see a print out of where that browser has been. I suspect we will be hearing that!!
46 posted on 06/11/2003 12:40:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear
I certainly disagree with Sheri Wilson. Peterson most definitely has an evil look to him. He sets that jaw and those cold, blank, vacuous eyes look plain evil to me. There is certainly no love (other than of self) that I can discern from Scott Peterson.
47 posted on 06/11/2003 12:45:41 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Howlin
LOL I try to avoid "those threads" also. I always end up being called some name. One guy called me a hateful old dried up foreign harridan!! *snort* I won't say what my reply was.
48 posted on 06/11/2003 12:50:40 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Howlin
Oh yes, and "a dangerous fundamentalist lunatic"!! I don't try to argue the Isreali/Pali subject very often.
49 posted on 06/11/2003 12:56:57 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
. I think they are going to attempt to pick apart the work of LE.

If it goes to trial, yeah they'll try. But just from the circumstantial evidence I've seen so far, people have been convicted on that in the past.

Not saying that'll happen this time, but Geragos may have his work cut out for him given the nature of the crime and the publicity surrounding the case.

50 posted on 06/11/2003 1:21:17 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Even with private lawyer, public can still pay for murder defense

Mark Geragos appeared in Stanislaus County court Friday on behalf of his new client, Scott Peterson.

By Harriet Ryan

Court TV

MODESTO, Calif. — When Scott Peterson's family hired Mark Geragos as his lawyer, they set him apart from nearly all other capital murder defendants.

Because death penalty defenses can run into the millions and few facing such charges are wealthy, virtually everyone charged with capital crimes is declared indigent and represented by a public defender or a court-appointed lawyer.

In California, high-profile defendants, such as David Westerfield and Erik and Lyle Menendez, are sometimes able to hire private lawyers initially, but if they run out of money before the case is resolved, as both Westerfield and the Menendez brothers did, state law often requires taxpayers to pick up the private lawyer's bill, albeit at a substantial government discount.

It is unclear how Peterson, a fertilizer salesman before his arrest for the double-murder of his wife and unborn son, and his parents and six siblings plan to pay Geragos and a coterie of co-counsel, private investigators, and paralegals who will work the case. Peterson said during his April 21 arraignment that he could not afford a lawyer, and a judge assigned him the Stanislaus County public defender.

But Geragos, a Los Angeles-based lawyer who represented Congressman Gary Condit and actress Winona Ryder, has done extensive television commentary on the case. He visited Peterson in jail before announcing publicly that he was considering representing him. His decision was made official at a hearing Friday morning.

For a typical murder case in Modesto, the public defender's office would represent any defendant, like Peterson, who said he was indigent. Normally, the court reviews the defendant's finanical records and property holdings to make sure he cannot pay. Peterson was carrying $10,000 in cash at the time of his arrest and owns a home, but murder trials and especially capital cases, which can run into the millions, often exceed the resources of even someone who is comfortably middle class.

If a conflict arose with the public defender's office — for example, in Peterson's case, the office is also representing men who allegedly burglarized a neighbor's home around the time of Laci Peterson's murder — the indigent defendant could choose from two private firms in the city who are paid a flat monthly rate by the county to handle those cases.

But taxpayers are not off the hook just because Peterson went outside the public defense system and hired Geragos. Certainly, if he or his family raised enough money, they could pay the entire cost of the trial. Attorney fees in capital cases are estimated at between $500,000 and $1 million, with other trial costs, such as forensic testing, expert testimony and investigators, often doubling the price tag.

But if Peterson and his family can only pay a portion, the county must kick in the rest. In some cases, relatives agree to pony up the private attorney's fees, but other costs, from mental examinations to DNA testing, are billed to the county's indigent defense fund.

In the cases of Westerfield and Menendez, however, citizens ultimately assumed both the private legal fees and other trial costs. Under a 1977 California Supreme Court decision, defendants who have built a relationship of "trust and confidence" over time with a privately retained lawyer can keep that attorney at the public's expense even if they can no longer afford the bills.

"The decision [in the 1977 case] basically said you've got an ongoing, well-established relationship with a lawyer and under the Sixth Amendment right to counsel, it makes no sense to disrupt that relationship," said Elisabeth Semel, a clinical professor at the University of California at Berkeley School of Law.

In the case of Westerfield, who was convicted of killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam last year, he retained lawyers Steven Feldman and Robert Boyce before he was even arrested, and then deeded his home to the attorneys who promptly put it on the market for $489,000. But before the case went to trial, and with the house still unsold, the lawyers told a judge they had exhausted Westerfield's money preparing his defense and asked to change their status from retained counsel to appointed counsel paid with public funds. A judge initially refused to keep them on, but an appellate court reversed that decision, citing the lawyers' relationship with Westerfield and their knowledge of the case.

In the Menendez case, the brothers, charged with murdering their parents, hired Leslie Abramson to represent them during their first trial, which ended in a hung jury. For the retrial, they could no longer afford Abramson, but since she had represented the brothers for years and knew the case thoroughly, a judge appointed her at taxpayer's expense.

The final bill for these cases is not known because financial records are confidential. Courts consider a defense team's spending to be a road map to its strategy and therefore seal the records until all appeals are completed.

Although some taxpayers might bristle at the idea of financing these defenses, California courts have repeatedly upheld the process. Sometimes, as in the Menendez case, legal experts note that funding a private attorney who has a comprehensive knowledge of the case is cheaper in the long run than asking a public defender's office to spend time familiarizing themselves with a new and complex case. The extra financial and staff costs, including the costs of having to divert lawyers from other cases, can be enormous.

If Peterson ran short of money before completing his case and wanted to continue with Geragos as his attorney, he would have to convince a judge that the pair had built "trust and confidence" and that replacing the lawyer would be detrimental to his defense.

He would also have to convince Geragos to work for far less money than he is accustomed. Private defense lawyers in Stanislaus County capital cases earn $100 per hour. For extraordinary cases, the rate can climb to $125. Geragos, according to other Los Angeles criminal defense lawyers, charges regular clients $500 per hour.

"One hundred dollars an hour wouldn't even cover the overhead in his office," said one colleague, who asked not to be identified.

Donald Lundy, executive officer of Stanislaus County's Superior Court, said he had not talked to Geragos about the rates, but said they were firm.

"We're not known for big time payment of fees for these guys," he said.

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I don't know if this has been posted before (about cost of lawyer.) I just found it very interesting.

51 posted on 06/11/2003 1:31:07 PM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: Neenah
Geragos, according to other Los Angeles criminal defense lawyers, charges regular clients $500 per hour.

No way Peterson can afford that. Maybe Gerango's working probono, or for a lot less. The publicity can only help business.

52 posted on 06/11/2003 1:37:29 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: runningbear
Hello rb! Thanks for the ping!
53 posted on 06/11/2003 1:56:04 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi Lyn! MSNBC says coming up next hour..new details in the case...
54 posted on 06/11/2003 1:59:27 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: All
MSNBC- Officials say the the body parts are not related to the Laci Peterson case, only one body part was determined to be female. DNA results will be back in a couple of weeks to confirm their conclusion...
55 posted on 06/11/2003 2:14:43 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Devil_Anse
Hi, DA! Mailcall! :0)
56 posted on 06/11/2003 2:16:14 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: All
Police in Davis have executed a search warrent on a "person of interest" in connection to the remains found in the dumpster in the trailer park...digging on a property, no additional remanins found as of yet.
57 posted on 06/11/2003 2:43:28 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
GHB is a red herring, in order to be used in court, one would have to find the substance in Laci's body, but that won't happen after the length the body was in the water. Also, GHB can and is more often than not used recreationally (not to rape women).
58 posted on 06/11/2003 2:45:29 PM PDT by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: Jackie-O
That's good news! Soon (presumably) any connection to Laci will be quashed.
59 posted on 06/11/2003 3:45:46 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Neenah
I don't know if this has been posted before (about cost of lawyer.) I just found it very interesting.

Thanks for posting it. It is interesting. I suspect that Mark is getting zero ... but I'm curious as to who is paying the expert witnesses. I can't believe he would pay for them out of his own pocket.

60 posted on 06/11/2003 3:48:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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