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To: Phsstpok
Thunderbirds were in the T-38, a plane with only enough guts to get you high enough to die coming back down. The F-16 is a great airplane, but a strange bird to fly. We had them in Aggressors. The computer does too much for my tastes. Like you said, it will go anywhere you point it, but what it does not do well is fly slow. It is designed to be pushed around the corner by that big engine, but you have little wing to hang on at high AOA. F-16's stalls are very ugly because at low altitude there is nothing you can do except leave the thing. At high altitude, you have to shut off the computer's pitch limiter and rock it back and forth to get air on the wing enough to fly away from the stall.

I'll be flying right seat on a 767 after training if everything works out.

51 posted on 06/10/2003 4:30:53 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for all the inside info.

I am just a humble private fixed wing SEL, nothing exciting ever happens in a "C-150". (And that is a good thing, thank you.) But it's interesting to read about the high, wide and handsome.

54 posted on 06/10/2003 4:45:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'll be flying right seat on a 767 after training if everything works out.

767 is a commercial with thrust to spare. I know. I was flying into SF with my family a couple of years ago from Memphis and we had the long, sloooooow, approach from the south bay. We just got over the threshold of the runway, the first solid ground you see under you after being over the bay for a long time, when the pilot literally fire walled it. I was definitely pushed back into my seat, big time. As we pushed back up we passed over the crossing east west runway and I could see a Lear jet going by underneath towards Oakland. He had to really push it because we were heading straight for Mount San Bruno (mount is optimistic, but it is "controlled flight into terrain" regardless of how high it is). We circled out over the Pacific and the Pilot simply said "I think we'll try that again." I was real glad for the big engines on that airplane. Come to think of it, it was Delta. Good airline (g).

60 posted on 06/10/2003 5:13:44 PM PDT by Phsstpok
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