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JetBlue orders 100 Brazilian Embraer 190 Jets
Embraer ^ | June 10th | Embraer

Posted on 06/10/2003 9:07:36 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector

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The Embraer ERJ190 is interesting because it is the first jet from the second tier jet makers that really covers Boeing and Airbus turf.

It's less expensive than the Boeing 717 (aka MD-95) or Airbus A318 and more economical to opperate.

Up to this point Boeing and Airbus have left Bombardier and Embraer alone, and didn't really bother trying to compete, but with the Embraer 190 they will have to. Bombardier will also have to come up with an answer to it.


1 posted on 06/10/2003 9:07:37 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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Having bought 2 aircraft from Brazil. I love their quality and service. If the company that builds these for JetBlue are anything like Aeromagic, we have a winner!!!

Ok, so it isn't exactly the same, but I am very happy with Brazil...

2 posted on 06/10/2003 9:11:15 AM PDT by abner (www.usflagballoon.com)
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Just where I'm looking to save money: By skimping on the quality of the plane I'm flying in.
3 posted on 06/10/2003 9:11:37 AM PDT by presidio9
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Bombardier has been working on a 90-seat version of the CRJ for a few years now. Not sure when the first delivery is planned.
4 posted on 06/10/2003 9:12:19 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Everyone knows you can't have a successful conspiracy without a Rockefeller)
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The Embraer ERJ190 is interesting because it is the first jet from the second tier jet makers that really covers Boeing and Airbus turf.

Oh yes, I really want to fly on an airline that buys jets from a country with a commnunist government.

5 posted on 06/10/2003 9:18:19 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Recently flew Jet Blue for the first time - very impressed and recommend it highly.
6 posted on 06/10/2003 9:19:48 AM PDT by NewYorker
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jet blue starts by copying SW air, then makes the fatal mistake of getting other aircraft so they need two sets of parts and two types of mechanic. All they had to do was pick away at Delta and American, cause people dislike flying on them and would be happy with a low cost alernative. GREED causes failure every time.

Thats my opinion and sticking with it till proven wrong.

7 posted on 06/10/2003 9:21:03 AM PDT by q_an_a
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skimping on quality?

Embraer isn't exactly putting these together in the middle of the jungle. They have a magnificent safety record

8 posted on 06/10/2003 9:29:49 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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Yep, Brazil's reputation as a producer of cutting-edge technology is legendary.

Will Jet Blue let me take a parachute as a carry-on?
9 posted on 06/10/2003 9:32:04 AM PDT by presidio9
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I generally agree with that, but for certain markets you simply can't fill an Airbus A320 or a 737. But that doesn't mean service can't be profitable with the right plane.

I think the problems arise when you get airlines like Delta that buy every airplane under the sun even where there is an obscene degree of overlap. Like Delta has\had the L-1011, DC-10, MD-11 and 767. They only needed one of those.
10 posted on 06/10/2003 9:35:38 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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uhh... why do I get the impression that everything you think you know about Brazil came from booze commercials.
11 posted on 06/10/2003 9:37:49 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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Why do I get the impression that you own stock in Embraer/JetBlue?
12 posted on 06/10/2003 9:39:27 AM PDT by presidio9
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Why do I get the impression that you own stock in Embraer/JetBlue?

What makes you think that the French (airbus) make better planes than they do in Brazil.

There are four reasons these planes were bought, their maker has a superb safety record, their planes cost lest to buy, their planes cost less to run, and their planes cost less to maintain.

Boeing and Airbus must each come up with a better plane that costs less. If they can't, Boeing and AirBus will lose this segment of the market.

There are many on this site who say we should only buy from those with the same political views.... not what is best. It is the most socialist statement that can be made. They prove that they do not believe in free markets. They believe in controlled markets... and controlled markets are the very essencws of the socialist concept.

13 posted on 06/10/2003 9:54:42 AM PDT by Common Tator
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Here is a tour of one of this company's planes on a GE site:

http://www.gecas.com/tour_erj170.asp
14 posted on 06/10/2003 9:54:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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Agreed. I hear there are some aeroflot planes also available. Cut rate.
15 posted on 06/10/2003 9:57:31 AM PDT by presidio9
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The quality is very good, from what I hear from the flyboys. Embraer has succeeded the old-fashioned way, by targeting a niche--regional jets--that the major players were too jaded to address. The advent of fast, reasonbly comfortable regional jets is a boon to passengers who can now avoid the dreaded puddle-jumper turboprop sardine cans.

With the downdrop in demand in the wake of 9/11, this positioned Embraer very well indeed. Now they're aiming at the 40-year-old 717 (which originated as the DC-9 in the 1960s)-- a noisy workhorse with not the best safety record. Bully to 'em. This is how capitalism is supposed to work.
16 posted on 06/10/2003 9:59:06 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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The company that makes this is on our NYSE as ERJ.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ERJ&d=t
17 posted on 06/10/2003 9:59:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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JetBlue is by far my favorite airline. Superb on-time performance, comfortable seats, no first-class envy, I could go on and on. If you fly out of a smaller regional airport like I do this announcement is good news. Now, if only they flew to Boston and Chicago...
18 posted on 06/10/2003 10:05:01 AM PDT by jalisco555 (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.)
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It is one heck of a lot more comfortable that the Canadair Regional Jet that United Express flies. You don't have to put your head on your lap to look out the window, for one thing.

And it isn't built in an enemy country!

19 posted on 06/10/2003 10:13:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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Enemy country?

Brazil was against the war also, and little Lulu is far more hostile than Chretien is.

For what it is worth, Bombardier employs alot of people in Kansas

20 posted on 06/10/2003 10:24:16 AM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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