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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The discipline problems in the public schools are far worse than people know and something has to be done about it.

I kept looking in this article to find how many students and how many schools were included in Gwinnett county, but if that number is there, I missed it. It's a large county.

That being said, the discipline in the public schools is outrageous - it would be particularly shocking for anyone who graduated before the mid-1970s to visit a public school now and see what goes on, I think.

The major reason for that is, many parents don't discipline their children, and they don't want anyone else doing it either. If the school tries (even if it's not corporal punishment), too many parents want to threaten a lawsuit.

11 posted on 06/10/2003 5:55:38 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
as you requested. Gwinnett County has about 615,000 residents.

Schools:

A Growing School System
Gwinnett County Public Schools, Georgia's largest school system, is located in metro-Atlanta.
2002-03 Projected Enrollment -- 123,685
GCPS is one of the fastest-growing school systems in the nation. Student enrollment increases by more than 6,000 students a year.
By school year 2006-2007, student enrollment in Gwinnett is projected to reach more then 147,000.

Number of schools in 2002-03
Elementary -- 52
Middle -- 16
High -- 14
Special Entities -- 5
Oakland Special Education Center
Hooper Renwick/GIVE Center
T. Carl Buice Center (Pre-Kindergarten)
Maxwell High School of Technology
Buchanan School
Gwinnett Technical College (postsecondary)


Financially Sound
FY2003 Amended Budget -- $1.2 billion
The cost for educating one child in Gwinnett County is $6,876 per year. Approximately 77 percent of that cost goes directly toward instruction.
The GCPS is the largest employer in Gwinnett County, employing more than 14,000 employees. Of those close to 9,000 are certified personnel.
A beginning teacher earns approximately $34,730.
In FY2003, the average GCPS teacher will earn $46,593 a year; with benefits included, the average teacher's salary is $60,416.

Preparing Students for the Future
6,068 graduates in 2001-02
87% planned to attend college/postsecondary schools
17% received scholarships totaling $47.19 million (This figure does not include the large amount of scholarship money students earned through the state's HOPE grant.)

12 posted on 06/10/2003 6:00:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Amelia
The major reason for that is, many parents don't discipline their children, and they don't want anyone else doing it either. If the school tries (even if it's not corporal punishment), too many parents want to threaten a lawsuit.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

14 posted on 06/10/2003 6:36:29 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Amelia
The major reason for that is, many parents don't discipline their children, and they don't want anyone else doing it either. If the school tries (even if it's not corporal punishment), too many parents want to threaten a lawsuit.

This can easily be solved. Laws CAN be changed to make it more difficult to sue. Next, for major offenses (fights, sexual assaults, etc.), study Singapore. The child who instigated the action must be caned. If the parents want to become aggressive, can them too. I am serious...no joke or humor intended. If teachers or administrators are caught in dishonesty, etc., can them too. You would only have to cane 3-4 students and/or parents and the whole situation would calm down.

The young American who was caught misbehaving in Singapore...whatever became of him? Funny how he doesn't make public appearances or statements. I wonder WHY? Can you think of why? It is time for America to wake up and realize this:

Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.

Mene

P.S. If that is not good enough for everyone, look up what my tagline means. That should take care of it.

19 posted on 06/10/2003 7:35:13 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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