[RJCogburn]

The question is, how do we change the mindsets?

Dunno. A heroine of mine, Ayn Rand, came to consider the only appropriate political involvement was to vote. She thought until the philosophy of the country, as expressed by the 'intellectuals', was changed, we could not expect political results. I think she was generally correct and the best we can realistically hope for, regardless of JimRob's solution of destroying the Dems and liberals, is to slow the progression of statism.

Changing a culture will take a very long time....

[Amelia]

the only appropriate political involvement was to vote. She thought until the philosophy of the country, as expressed by the 'intellectuals', was changed, we could not expect political results. I think she was generally correct and the best we can realistically hope for, regardless of JimRob's solution of destroying the Dems and liberals, is to slow the progression of statism.

I tend to agree. And, sitting home without voting will certainly not change anything. It only ensures that the other guy has a voice and you don't.