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To: Jim Robinson
Republican politicians are politicians, too. Republicans are human, too. Socialism continues to develope whether democrats or republicans dominate. I see no difference, except that the path to socialism wears jeans when the democrats dominate and suits when the republicans dominate.

Every election we are told to vote for republicans, not some unelectable third party because, if we don't, the democrats will win. Well, if the Constitution is trashed by both, and both pursue the key policies to socialism, so what?

This scare tactic has gotten us bigger and more expensive government, just with more decorum. Screw decorum. Genteel socialism is socialism.

The only possible chance we have to change things at the ballot box is to elect renegades. Not only will that shake loose the calcified joints of our political system, it will make clear to the newly elected renegades that we can and will punish corrupt behavior, encouraging them to avoid the path of settled certainty of reelection.

The time to do this rapidly passing, and indeed, may already be past. Regardless, it is the only choice we have; none others exist. And we had better realize it or the chance will for sure be gone completely, and the only way back is, like all other examples in history, reduction by force.

So, by advocating status quo remedies, you, for all intents and purposes, advocate the eventual armed conflict or socialist tyranny.

Sorry to be confrontational, but I can't see, from recent domestic history, how what I describe is not a hardcore certainty. That is to say, certainty, not a possiblilty, not a probablilty. A certainty.

The way I see it, we either amputate the arm or we die; we either break the glass bubble, and get cut by flying glass, or we suffocate and our civilization with us.

47 posted on 06/10/2003 5:37:32 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people.)
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To: William Terrell
The only possible chance we have to change things at the ballot box is to elect renegades.

The whole point is that this is not possible.

Socialism continues to develope whether democrats or republicans dominate. I see no difference, except that the path to socialism wears jeans when the democrats dominate and suits when the republicans dominate.

I disagree. Do you really think there would be no difference had Al Gore been elected instead of George W. Bush? You may claim that any differences are just differences in degree. I claim that a few degrees' difference is the difference between being comfortable and uncomfortable (and eventually dead.) Kind regards,

104 posted on 06/10/2003 10:39:06 AM PDT by benjaminthomas
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To: William Terrell
Electing renegades may be fine idea, but how are you going to do it? I do not want to risk turning it all back to the liberals at this time. We have the majority now, and if we can hold on to it for awhile, at least long enough to get some solid turnover in the judiciary, then we may be able to make some real progress. We have the Whitehouse and the majority in the Congress and in the statehouses. We have the momentum going. Now is the time to build on that majority. Break the backs of liberalism. Ignite a flame under the grassroots and pretty soon the general public will follow along and not long after that the politicians will get the message. If you want to get elected, you cannot run as a liberal and you must govern from the right. It can happen.

140 posted on 06/10/2003 1:16:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: William Terrell
The only possible chance we have to change things at the ballot box is to elect renegades.

Why didn't WE think of that? It's so easy! All we have to do is get renegades elected.

Well, get on with it then. Go get those renegades elected. They can't possibly have any real competition. Just put their names up there. Be sure to include Papa Blueface Surf, from Montana. He just oozes electability--or is that oxidation?

Please have it done by next election cycle, okay. We've suffered long enough. If you can't get it done by then, you're fired.

205 posted on 06/10/2003 4:32:28 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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