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In other areas, the Libertarians are less realistic. I strongly disagree with the Libertarians' position on defense and foreign intervention. Even if we withdrew from the world, many would still hate and attack us.

LOL....as if we would ever be attacked if it weren't for our worldwide military presense...

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LOL....as if we would ever be attacked if it weren't for our worldwide military presenseLet's assume you're correct. Assume for a moment The United States is an empire. What then would happen when an empire abandons the frontier? There's far more violence than before.

Various histories of the fall of Rome might help build understanding of this.

My position is a bit different. There are people and groups in the world who would attack the United States even if we had never sent a single soldier beyond our shores. Who? Radical islamicists, communists, anarchist, organized criminals, etc.