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To: xdem
Please make an effort to learn something about Libertarians before speaking about them.

So you deny that Libertarians have an overall "open border" policy?

-Jay

22 posted on 06/09/2003 11:23:51 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Liberty * Liberalism = Constant)
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To: Jay D. Dyson
So you deny that Libertarians have an overall "open border" policy?

Actually I think Liberaltarians do, the difference between Conservatives and Liberaltarians is with societal boundaries NOT federal boundaries. Am I wrong?

25 posted on 06/09/2003 11:33:13 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Jay D. Dyson
So you deny that Libertarians have an overall "open border" policy?

I would deny that Libertarians have taken over California!

29 posted on 06/10/2003 3:22:08 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Jay D. Dyson
"So you deny that Libertarians have an overall "open border" policy? "

I can't deny that, it's true.

It's also pretty much the same in practice as the "amnesty every couple of years" which is the Republican policy. So what about it?

30 posted on 06/10/2003 4:34:52 AM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Jay D. Dyson
So you deny that Libertarians have an overall "open border" policy?

Not at all.

http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration.html

The point is that illegal immigration is driven by large welfare payments. Were the welfare payments ended, there would be less immgration of people coming here only for handouts. People immigrating to the U.S. to work are far less a problem.

This is more realistic than our present immigration policy of mostly allowing in people who'll vote Democrat.

In other areas, the Libertarians are less realistic. I strongly disagree with the Libertarians' position on defense and foreign intervention. Even if we withdrew from the world, many would still hate and attack us.

40 posted on 06/10/2003 7:38:06 AM PDT by xdem
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To: Jay D. Dyson
It appears to me that our Republicans also have an open border policy.
88 posted on 06/11/2003 2:07:21 PM PDT by Fraulein
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