[Last Visible Dog]

Ah, but electricity has a natural cause. So does the origin of species. ID is a supernatural cause, regardless of how you attempt to package it.

But wait. Electricity was considered supernatural at one point therefore all things supernatural could one day be part of what we consider natural.

The origin of matter does have a supernatural cause therefore the foundation of all theories is supernatural (beyond our current understanding of nature).

THIS IS MY KEY POINT. You evolutionists defeat ID with arguments that defeat ALL theories of the origin of matter.

[Aric2000]

HELLO LVD!!

Earth to LVD, the ONLY Scientific theory that I know that tries to explain the origin of matter is the Big Bang theory.

And we have yet to figure out EXACTLY how it ALL started, but NO where, and I MEAN NO WHERE, does the big bang theory say, then "a miracle happened", or "goddidit", no where in the theory of the big bang will you find either of those 2 phrases, you may see "we don't know yet", but no where will you see "goddidit" or "a miracle happened".

If those 2 phrases are anywhere in that theory, I would love to see you point them out to me.

[Junior]

And your point? You consider the origin of species to be supernatural (much like the primitives with lightning). As with lightning, the origin of species has a natural cause.