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America's mission was and remains: Extirpating flaming nutballs and the societies that nurture them
Jewish World Review ^
| June 9, 2003
| James Lileks
Posted on 06/09/2003 5:23:46 AM PDT by SJackson
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No more mass executions. No new prisons for children. No bonus checks for the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. No Terrorism 101 classes at Salman Pak. No electrodes applied to the daughter of a man who talked to CNN. No daily potshots at allied aircraft. No sudden sluice of fear in the hearts of the Kurds when the government trucks appear on the horizon. No miserable thuggish satrapy in the middle of the Middle East, thumbing its nose at the United Nations and the United States.
Come election time 2004, the Iraqi oil proceeds will not be going to secret Swiss accounts named Chick Daney and Ronald Dumsfeld. They'll be going to the people of Iraq. We won't be arguing about losing the peace in Iraq.
We'll be arguing about losing the peace in Iran. But that's another story. For another presidential term.
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posted on
06/09/2003 5:23:46 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
What a wonderful idea. Let's compile a list.
This silly question is as cogent as the earlier ones, which were utterly destroyed as the mindless thoughts they were: How long will the war last?
How much will the war cost?
I'll start it off...
I have yet to meet a "progressive" who acted from an informed position.
Does that mean that none exist?
I have never seen nor heard of a "pacifist" who was normal.
Does that mean that none exist?
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posted on
06/09/2003 5:36:00 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
To: SJackson
Now....the pro-war freepers are making the Clintonesque "humanitarian intervention" arguments they once rejected. I guess partisanship is the only consisent factor in their worldview. Before the war, of course, they reveled in the scare argument of WMD as their main tactice, now it is down the Orwellian memory hole.
Meanwhile, another American soldier is dead and others have died recently in Afghanistan. If this isn't a slow-bleed quagmire with no light at the end of the tunnel, I don't know what is. Unfortunately, the predictions of the anti-war freepers (and more) are coming to pass.
To: Captain Kirk
First Daniel Pipes and now this writer are saying that no WMDs have been found yet.
This is a stunning acknowledgement and marks a clear turn in agitprop tactics.
I wonder if the hawkish freepers who have been attempting to prove the opposite, that in fact WMDs have been found but the liberal media is no reporting it, will start to feel used yet.
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posted on
06/09/2003 5:52:02 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: JohnGalt
The term "Weapons of Mass Destruction" is dropping rapidly from vocabulary of hawkish freepers, except for Iran and Syria of course.
To: JohnGalt
You just can't bring yourself to admit that we accomplished a great good, can you? Ultimately, the stability that will result in in that part of the Middle East will yield enormous benefits to us as a nation and a people.
You and your ilk are head-in-a-hole utterly blind and hopeless.
To: JohnGalt
The media was interested in kicking Saddam out of Iraq; now that Bush has done that for them, it is time to pick on him to allow a liberal Democrat to get in the White House. Liberals/Neo-cons, and the media are happier together than having a born-again agenda involved. It confuses things!
To: Captain Kirk
I can't tell you the number of threads I was pinged to in March and April preporting to prove that WMDs had been found in Iraq. The explanation at the time was that the problem was that the liberal media was not reporting what had been founs, and 'besides, look at those mass graves.' This past weekend marks a stunning concession from the hawks that no WMDs have been found yet. What comes next is the theme of this article that 'it doesn't really matter, '.'
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:00:43 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: philosofy123
The media or Scaife/Murdoch/Conrad Black publishing?
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:05:07 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: Captain Kirk
How many millions of people were violently murdered by the Saddam regime and the terrorists it sponsored?
The entire regime was a weapon of mass destruction!How many promises would you accept from Saddam that he would not continue to develop weapons of mass destruction? You're a fool if you say even one. But you may be an isolationist libertarian, so to call you a fool would be redundant.
Saddam worked very hard to hide and destroy his weapons of mass destruction. Why? Not because a sudden burst of human warmth had thawed his sensisbilities, but ONLY because coalition forces were camped on his borders. He said, "No mas," but we went in and took him out anyway and ensured he and his insane sons wouldn't undo the task after we withdrew.
Thank Almighty God for George W. Bush--second only to Ronald Reagan in identifying evil and pummeling it straight up.
To: JohnGalt
I am still waiting for the pro-war freepers to start bombarding us with links "proving" WMD. Of course, the natural retort to such bombardments is that they should pass on their "evidence" to Dubya who apparently is not aware of it.
To: Kevin Curry
I am sorry but I don't buy the Wilsonian humanitiarian argument in your lead paragraph. I rejected this rationale in the 1990s when applied to Haiti, Kosovo, and Somalia, along with most freepers, and continue to reject it now.
Let me also note that if the freeper born again humanitarian interventionsts were reasonably consistent, they would be on their hind legs loudly demanding that American soldiers be sent to the Congo and Liberia where people's limbs are being hacked off as we speak.
Finally, you are wrong in your snap judgement that I am an "isolationist." I fully supported the Afghanistan war because it was based on the traditional American concept of national defense rather than Wilsonianism social engineering.
To: JohnGalt; Captain Kirk
What comes next is the theme of this article that 'it doesn't really matter, '.'Or better yet, "Would it make any difference to you?"
Seriously, as the article suggests, if they found them today, they'd have been "planted" by the dissembling Bushies. But if they haven't ffound them yet, then nobody planted them, and the administration is not lying about them now. Wouldn't a nefarious admin that KNEW there were no WMDs beforehand have a planting scheme ready to go and justify their incursion?
What then, do you want next? Impeachment? Pullout and drop everything? Reparations to the Hussein family? Invade Israel?
To: Captain Kirk
You are free to climb way out on that limb about the WMD not being found.
It is always foolish to do this when the President is adept with a chainsaw.
To: sam_paine
I'd settle for Rummy resigning to 'spend more time with his family.'
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:15:24 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: sam_paine
I have contended all along that Bush was duped by otherwise trusted advisors and fed bad information from his intelligence agencies. The 'dupers' should be identified and removed from their positions of power before this mess costs Bush a re-election.
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:18:52 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: sam_paine
Pullout and drop everything sounds good. Let's declare victory, go home, and leave the Iraqis free to pursue their own future.
Another American soldier just died. This is a quagmire (yes, Virginia it is a "quagmire yet"). Let's stop when wer're still ahead.
To: JohnGalt
First Daniel Pipes and now this writer are saying that no WMDs have been found yet.
Pipes is an embarrassment, but yesterday an even bigger fish....Bill Kristol, stated he was skeptical that WMDs would be found.
I am sure Bush is recalling his father's advice right about now.
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:20:26 AM PDT
by
mr.pink
To: SJackson
America's mission was and remains: Extirpating flaming nutballs and the societies that nurture them
Then why do NY, MA, MD, NJ, IL, CT and CA still exist?
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posted on
06/09/2003 6:24:57 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
To: Captain Kirk; JohnGalt
Ok, Capt. and John,
I hear ya loud and clear. I'll summarize your combined grand plan:
Give up, and name a scapegoat or two.
Yeah. That's good. Good work fellas.
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