Tiny IDs can track almost anything (a bug in underwear)

Wahington Times ^ | 06/09/03 | Audrey Hudson

[steve50]

Nothing that about 4 seconds in the microwave can't handle

I'm not sure about that. Some reports claim that if they are small enough they aren't affected by microwave.

Probably be in currency, think I'll set up a lead wallet company.

[BushCountry]

This is what is scary, police do not need a warrent to plant a bug on your car. You have no right to privacy in public the courts have ruled!

[BushCountry]

They have hand-held devices that produce a strong magnetic field that is capable of destroying these devices (I used them to wipe multiple floppy disk drives).

[steve50]

De-gauzers?(sp). Forgot about those, seems like they should work.

[Pure Country]

Between black boxes and embedded chips it sounds like used cars, etc. will be hot with folks who value privacy.

The only problem with this is that when a new tire or any new part is bought... there you go--invaded by the bug again. I think that I will start a new company called "Electronic Pesticide."

[joesnuffy]

Microwave your shorts

[boris]

This is great! Now they can find out where your socks go in the laundry!

--Boris

[NYFriend]

Well, for most items, the bugs should be in the packaging. A bad of sock might have six pairs, that would require twelve of these RF chips if each sock got one. These things cost money. Why not just put one in the bag. Then there are no privacy concerns either, once you toss the bag.

Will these chip survive a trip through the washer and dryer?

[laker_dad]

Whatachagonnado? The only thing I can think of is to buy everything I think I will need for the rest of my life right now, then get it all in the house--and never leave again--LOL!

Maybe you can get a deal on a slightly-used Y2K compound in the boonies!

[FreeInWV]

I'm sure Dianne Fineswine, Chuck Schumer and Hitlery like this idea. Just think of all of the guns & ammo that they would be able to track (for the good of the children!).

[_Jim]

Part 15 RFID tags are a threat to all sorts of radio services - their emissions will splatter all over the spectrum,

THEY aren't meeting Part 15 requirements if they 'splatter' as you put it and cause harm to other services ...

[RaceBannon]

(Rev 13:16 KJV) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

(Rev 13:17 KJV) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

(Rev 13:18 KJV) Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

[_Jim]

Tiny IDs can track almost anything (a bug in underwear)

Grossly misleading headline alert - re-written properly it would say: "Tiny IDs [allow] track[ing] [of] almost anything".

A certain level of supporing infrastructure is *still* required ...

[_Jim]

hand-held devices that produce a strong magnetic field

WHILE suitable for 'wiping' a floppy clean or de-gaussing a badly magentized color TV's "shadow mask" -

- a STRONG magentic field created by 60 Hz (50 Hz in Europe) mains current isn't going to have much effect on a small micro-chip sized ID tag ...

[honeygrl]

Well, I can see a lot of good coming out of this for businesses (costs going down with loss prevention) and for people looking for missing persons BUT it really makes me worry about misuse of it and who has access to knowing where me and my stuff is. I mean.. you wouldn't want a stalker being able to track you using your underwear. And there are a lot of intelligent criminals out there who will likely find a way to mess up the bugs and get around it.

[honeygrl]

"You know, your unbugged items could be sold for much higher price later. Bug-free underwears! Limited quantity! That would be your sales pitch. "

Same with cars. Our old peices of crap could go WAY up in value.

[dd5339]

Your correct on your post.

Of course as an amateur radio operator, I wonder what fun I could have be wondering into Walmart and transmitting on the 70 cm band, (that's the general area) these things operate on. I'm guessing my handi-talkie operating at 5 watts would overload the receiver for these RFID tags.

Of course I might also have to sit outside of a Walmart using these tags and have a QSO, (conversation) with a distant station using my mobile radio running 50 watts. That would have to play havoc on the receiver for these tags.

Of course the above would be considered "malicious interference" and would be something a good amateur radio operator would never do. ;-)

Semper Fi

[honeygrl]

"Perhaps they should try reading the lables on the boxes."

Well, if men packed the boxes you know they didn't label them. And if men opened the boxes they wouldn't read the label anyway. A reason for females in the military? :)

[Consort]

Nano nannies. Crack spies.

[_Jim]

it really makes me worry about misuse of it and who has access to knowing where me and my stuff is.

WHAT do you suppose the 'reading range' is going to be from one of these micro tag 'readers' that some snoop could potentially run around with:

A) A foot (12 inches)?

B) A yard (3 feet)?

C) Ten yards (30 feet)?

D) 100 yards (300 feet)?

In a standard urban setting (within a house, brick facade, aluminized-plastic outer insulation foam in the exterior walls) will the above 'range' be substantailly:

a) increased?

b) decreased?