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Canada poised to ease drug possession laws
The Michigan Daily ^ | June 09, 2003 | James Koivunen

Posted on 06/08/2003 11:58:28 PM PDT by yonif

The Controlled Drug and Substances Act will keep marijuana illegal in Canada, but a bill has been proposed that would lessen the penalties for possession. Marijuana use is on the rise and the support for incarceration as a penalty is falling, according to a statement released by Health Canada, a department of the Canadian government that is responsible for developing health policies.

The proposed plan would reduce penalties for those possessing small amounts of marijuana and strengthen penalties for those found to be growing or distributing. "They'll just focus on more serious offenses like trafficking and dealing," explained Sgt. Ed McNorton, spokesman for the Windsor Police Department.

A person caught with up to 15 grams would no longer face federal offense-type punishment, rather a small fine. "It's like a traffic ticket," McNorton said. The penalty for an adult would be $150 Canadian, around $110 U.S.

But the maximum penalty for growing would double; offenders could be sentenced to 14 years in prison instead of seven. Trafficking remains the most serious offense, with a possible sentence of life in prison. By concentrating on the more serious offenses, the Canadian government hopes to "free up the courts in a lot of these small instances," McNorton said.

Canadian officials hope to eliminate court costs that would create funding (an expected $150 million) for an anti-drug research, education, and treatment campaign

According to a written statement, Justice Minister Martin Cauchon promised the Canadian people this alternative punishment is in no way a foreshadow to legalization. McNorton maintained legalization was not on the horizon for our neighboring country. "There's been no talk of that. The public would not welcome it," he said. "We've preached the message 'say no to drugs,'" he added.

But the public is in favor of softer penalties for marijuana possession said Noel Kent, a 22-year-old student at the University of Toronto and lifetime resident of Milton, Ontario.

"General consensus is that (Canadians) are all for it, although the general consensus smokes marijuana," Kent said.

He added that he still supports decriminalization, but said he feels his government should take things one step further.

"I'm thinking they should completely legalize it. The government would generate huge profits off of it," Kent said.

"They're going to make money instead of just throwing away a joint," Kent added.

"Everyone is for it. Only the police force shows opposition, and even that is divided," Kent said.

This opposition is visible through the uneasiness McNorton and the rest of the Windsor Police Department have shown toward the proposed legislation.

Through this "alternative punishment" plan there are specific amounts of marijuana that generate specific penalties - this is what creates concern.

"We want police discretion. There could be aggravating circumstances. With each situation there are circumstances to consider," McNorton said.

With a border stretching more than 5,000 miles, President George Bush has cautioned Canada that the U.S. would increase border patrol if marijuana possession was decriminalized.

Government officials believe that lighter penalties in Canada would increase drug activity in the U.S.

Canadian officials are just as concerned with this possible increase in marijuana commotion. "As with any new legislation you just have to wait to see how they affect you," McNorton said.

LSA junior Ru Talati said she also resonates the President's concern and is therefore skeptical of easing up on drug policies.

"I don't think it's a good idea," Talati added.

"It's a great idea in theory, but there are a lot of unforeseeable repercussions that could occur," Talati said. "One that I see is between the border and what's going to happen there."

The close proximity to the border and a change in Canadian drug laws could have an effect on student activities, LSA junior Christy Flanagan said.

"Maybe more people will choose to go there so they can smoke with less risk," Flanagan said.

Flanagan added that she also believes the proposed legislation could be beneficial, adding, "They're still criminalizing the source of the problem: the people who are smuggling and distributing."

Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm was unable to comment on the decriminalization in Canada because it has not been implemented.

Granholm's spokeswoman, Liz Boyd, said the governor would definitely be against any measures to decriminalize drugs in her state.

"If there was an effort to decriminalize in Michigan, the governor would oppose it. We will maintain (drug) education, prevention, and law enforcement," Boyd said.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addiction; drugs; laws; liberdopian; marijuana; possession; wodlist

1 posted on 06/08/2003 11:58:29 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Not only have they tabled legislation to decriminalize pot, the cops around the country have themselves decided to quit arresting people for possession. Here in Winnipeg I see men walking down the street puffing away on a joint as calm as you please.
2 posted on 06/09/2003 12:02:07 AM PDT by lib-r-teri-ann
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To: yonif; *Wod_list; jmc813
Flanagan added that she also believes the proposed legislation could be beneficial, adding, "They're still criminalizing the source of the problem: the people who are smuggling and distributing."

Another example of the decline of the educational system. How are smugglers and distributors "the source of the problem"---are they creating demand for marijuana?

The fact is, some people like to muddle their minds, and as Prohibition showed, there's not a damned thing government can do about it---although it can create new problems by trying.

3 posted on 06/09/2003 7:17:07 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
How are smugglers and distributors "the source of the problem"--

Yeah! Next someone will be telling us that they make it attractive and entice young children to try drugs. But Wait! Hasn't someone already told us that? Hmmmm.

4 posted on 06/09/2003 7:21:11 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: lib-r-teri-ann
The cops haven't decided, the courts have. They have ruled that there is no valid law on the books making simple possession illegal. Cases are being tossed left and right, so the cops have wised up and decided to stop wasting their time.
5 posted on 06/09/2003 7:22:19 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: FreePaul
Next someone will be telling us that they make it attractive and entice young children to try drugs. But Wait! Hasn't someone already told us that?

Who told us that, and what was their evidence?

6 posted on 06/09/2003 7:29:44 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
You want to legalize poisons such as heroin, crack and methedrine. Not just "harmless marijuana".

So be honest and lay your cards on the table. And your ego trip of seeing weaker people succumb to these stupid drugs. Your Social Darwinism philosophy is a nutshell --->

 

Careful, just because someone has no problem with letting people poison themselves (and clean the crud out of the gene pool), does not mean we are drug users. We prefer to think of ourselves as unsympathetic to their problems. If you want to fry your brains, and kill yourself; it's more oxygen for me.

223 posted on 06/04/2003 5:27 PM EDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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7 posted on 06/09/2003 7:31:30 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
You want to legalize poisons such as heroin, crack and methedrine. Not just "harmless marijuana".

So be honest

I've never denied it. You need to practice more honesty:

And your ego trip of seeing weaker people succumb to these stupid drugs. Your Social Darwinism philosophy is a nutshell --->

Still telling this lie about me? That's Hodar's philosophy, not mine.

8 posted on 06/09/2003 7:34:59 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: FreePaul
Make poisons such as heroin, meth and crack legal, cheap and widely available and guess what? Use will sky rocket. Americans lack discipline and self restraint as it is. Now Leroy is a stellar human being and wouldn't cave in and get addicted. The problem is he (like other loosertarians) doesn't care if other do. In much larger numbers than today.

 

9 posted on 06/09/2003 7:35:43 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MrLeRoy
How is your philosophy different? You have as much interest and concern for Americans who get addicted due to legalized heroin/meth/crack etc. as you do for a rock outside. How does your ego trip differ from Hogar's? All I see is a the me, myself and I philosophy of libertarianism.
10 posted on 06/09/2003 7:39:58 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Make poisons such as heroin, meth and crack legal, cheap and widely available and guess what? Use will sky rocket. Americans lack discipline and self restraint as it is.

Provide evidence for your claims.

11 posted on 06/09/2003 7:41:38 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: dennisw
How is your philosophy different?

I am sympathetic to the problems of drug addicts---including alcoholics---and would rather see them get better than die.

12 posted on 06/09/2003 7:42:57 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: dennisw
Use will sky rocket

What makes you believe this would happen,
after all the evidence shows exactly the opposite,
Denmark has a lower rate of people smoking MJ, than the U.S.
So why would it skyrocket.
13 posted on 06/09/2003 10:50:51 AM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: yonif
I hope this leads to much stricker and slower border crossing between America and Canada. I hope this leads to tedious and thorough checks of everything and everybody coming into this country from Cannuckistan.
14 posted on 06/09/2003 10:58:03 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: yonif
How can they 'ease' a law that doesn't exist?
15 posted on 06/09/2003 11:00:32 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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