Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son

Contra Costa Times ^ | Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003 | Brian Anderson and Claire Booth

[melodie]

I had heard that the Judge would be ruling last friday on weather to make the pre-arrest search warrants public. Was the hearing ever heald?

[Devil_Anse]

What?? An academic type, having a problem with the death penalty?? Why, where would you get an idea like that??



LOL!

[Devil_Anse]

OP, we may have to slip you some GHB, just to get a horrible image like THAT wiped out of your mind!! And thanks a whole pile, for sharing that with us! Now it's in MY mind, too! ROFL!!!

(P.S. When you got this image of Geragos naked, in the romantic sense, what species of partner did you imagine him with? Chicken? Armadillo? Hillary? Just curious!)

[Devil_Anse]

Oh, I was downright paranoid, lol! My aunt took this little thing called DES while pregnant! And her husband is a doctor! Just goes to show, even the doctors didn't know about that stuff back then! (Fortunately, all of her daughters managed to have the children they wanted, but there were some problems for a while, for one of them!)

[Devil_Anse]

Two? Really? Hmm, the plot definitely thickens, then. Perhaps one was his business computer... wouldn't it be something if this telling stuff was on his business computer.

And wouldn't it be something if there were e-mails found btw him and Amber.

[runningbear]

I think your question might be here?

Modbee.com

[MaggieMay]

Thanks runningbear for the ping.

You are correct RGSpincich, when the prosecution presents its case,these folks who claim to have seen Laci on the 24th will disappear.

As this article from the Laci Peterson web site points out, dogs were used from the 1st day of the investigation.I quote:
An immedicate search of East La Loma Park and surrounding areas was launched by police and,within hours, many others. They utilized foot searchers,all terrain vehicles, patrol cars, sport utility vehicles, helicopters and search lights,heat sensors, water recue units,CANINES and equestian teams.

The dogs you are referring to CurlyDave, are the bloodhounds from the Dec.26th. Also Dec 30th another bloodhound brought into the investigatiom believes she left by vehicle not by foot.

I could cite many other things that makes it clear Laci never left her house that day.But heck,I will just let Scott speak for himself. Here from ABC interview is a quote:
Scott Peterson says,"Yes, I tried to sell the house. Who the hell would want to live in a house that's unsafe where your wife was kidnapped from?"

[Spunky]

Thanks Devil, but grizzfan had already freep mailed me with the link to the thread before your posting.

I sure did miss something. I don't know weather to believe it or not. All I know is if Scott could have done what he did to Laci , I think he is capable of anything.

[hergus]

You are a web designer?? I'm Not at all. I did the first webpage (Westerfield Trial) because a good buddy of mine was working and couldn't see any of the CTV coverage of the trial. SinceI have a webtvplus that takes vid caps I decided to grab a few pictures for her only.

I got so caught up with doing it that I asked her if I dared go public with the URL....ya know how people can diss others...she said go for it and I did. I only did it for those around the fora I've been posting at since 1997 that might not get to see the people, evidence etc.

When Laci went missing I figured I'd catch some vidcaps for everyone on this case too.

It's a labor of love...just something I can do to help, since I couldn't personally search or anything. Now I need how to learn how to change my DW website over to it's own webpage on my computer, so I have enough room on the webtvplus for the Laci case.

Is there any program I can use to make that kind of change that would be easy for a novice?

Thanks for the kind word's....

Laci Peterson Disappearance

[hergus]

I thought GHB was illegal? I know that there was a writer in the Darlie Routier case that wrote two books, the first anti-Darlie, and then later she changed her mind about Darlie's guilt and wrote a pro-Darlie book.

Anyway, she was caught with GHB (in TX) when LE came to her door and ended up shooting and killing her son on a tip about drugs in the house.

So how can you buy it over the net? I was thinking (not sure here) that the writer had made her own and had the ingredients in the house. She was charged with some things, I don't remember the outcome of all of this stuff. But she said she had used it for sleep before it went illegal and still had some around.

Laci Peterson Disappearance

[hergus]

If GHB is supposed to relax the musculature enough to ease a birth...could Scott have instead been researching this as a replacement for Rx amiyl (sp?) nitrate (poppers) used so much by gay men for ease of.....well, you know. Just thinking here...

Laci Peterson Disappearance

[CurlyDave]

Where would she even hear about GHB, since it is illegal in most states? It's not exactly something usually discussed in Mother's Magazine, your local Lamaze class or during baby showers.

It is just as possible for Laci (or Scott) to follow links on the internet as you or I. How did you hear about GHB? The way I heard about it was on the internet.

I personally have followed links to a large number of things I would have had no knowledge of without the internet.

Laci was an educated, intelligent woman. I doubt that she spent the last few months of her pregnancy watching daytime TV and reading Mother's Magazine.

Same with Scott. It is perfectly possible to look things up on the internet without actually buying them.

[kcvl]

How did you hear about GHB?

Pharmacist spouse and working for physicians.

[kcvl]

How did you hear about GHB?

Pharmacist spouse and working for physicians.

[hergus]

Maybe the actual kill was soft, but what happened afterwards was the violent part? If he went onto Brook's Island to do a little dismembering and LE found blood there that they confirmed was Laci's could the GHB come from that?

Laci Peterson Disappearance

[CurlyDave]

when the prosecution presents its case,these folks who claim to have seen Laci on the 24th will disappear.

I recognize that you firmly believe this, but I fail to understand how these people will "disappear".

The defense is free to call them as witnesses, and if Law Enforcement is so foolish as to intimidate them into not testifying about observations contrary to LE theory of the crime they are setting themselves up for reversal and some severe penalties.

While it is is perfectly proper for LE to attempt to discredit witnesses, it is well outside the bounds to have them disappear.

Also Dec 30th another bloodhound brought into the investigatiom believes she left by vehicle not by foot.

1. I can state with absolute certainty that we have no knowledge whatsoever of the beliefs of the bloodhound. The absolute best we can do is to know the beliefs of the dog handler, based on his inferences from the behavior of the dog.

As we saw in the Westerfield case dog handlers can be wrong.

2. It is also perfectly possible for Laci to have left the house under her own power in the morning and to have been dragged to a vehicle in the afternoon.

Yes, it is entirely possible, even probable that Scott did it, but the hard evidence seems pretty thin at this point. Arguments based on "knowledge" of a dog's thoughts just don't cut it. I doubt that LE can even place the time of death within a two week period.

If LE had strong evidence of the time of death or that Laci couldn't possibly have walked the dog on the 24th they would have arrested Scott long ago. Why take the chance of looking like a bunch of Bozos if he somehow gave them the slip?

Their theory of the crime doesn't involve any other conspitators, so they weren't waiting for him to lead them to someone else. The way I read this is that LE has very strong beliefs that Scott is the culprit, but the physical evidence they have is very weak.

An immedicate search of East La Loma Park and surrounding areas was launched by police and,within hours, many others. They utilized foot searchers,all terrain vehicles, patrol cars, sport utility vehicles, helicopters and search lights,heat sensors, water recue units,CANINES and equestian teams.

Based on actual results in the Chandra Levy case, the fact that they searched with all these methods and didn't find anything means very little.

[Spunky]

"The baby was INSIDE Laci and the Uterus was not cut. That baby was expelled much later through the birth canal."

That bit of info came from here:

A source who has seen the 25-page autopsy report and does not work for either the defense or the prosecution told Fox News that the body of the 8-months-pregnant woman was missing the head and neck, and both arms are cut off at the elbows.

The right leg is severed at the knee; the left foot is missing; the heart, lungs and other internal organs are gone and there is a hole in the upper abdomen above the belly button that may be a knife wound, said the source, who asked not to be identified.

The womb, however, is intact -- suggesting that the nearly full-term baby was not cut out of Laci’s body but was expelled naturally after she was killed.
New Details

My personal opinion is the source probably turned information about the (cervix) being intack, to the (womb) being intack.

Think about it. In order to be expelled naturally after Laci was killed the cervix would have to have dilated. I don't think this happened. I believe that as the water warmed up, gasses built up in Laci and the baby was expelled through the deteriorating uterus.

If those bones we saw were actually Laci's there was no way the uterus was intack.

Never trust a source who doesn't want to be identified.

[Canadian Outrage]

These Laci eyewitnesses are really NOT going to be that difficult for the Prosecution to dissect. Each and every one of them come across as "iffy"!! They each strike me as wanting to insert themselves into some publicity.

[Canadian Outrage]

Why MG's partner would be one Susan MacDougal!! (The slut)!!

[RGSpincich]

While it is is perfectly proper for LE to attempt to discredit witnesses, it is well outside the bounds to have them disappear.

Winesses who finally realize that their 15 minutes is over routinely disappear, on their own volition, from public view. The other side has nothing to do with it. I'm sure that is what MM meant and that was my meaning in an earlier post, as well. After witnesses get exposed to evidence that contradicts them, their factual certainty sometimes wanes to the point that they are not even called to the stand. I think that will happen in this case.