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The Pro-Life Movement's Problem With Morality
The Washington Dispatch ^ | June 6, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

Posted on 06/06/2003 10:32:33 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford

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1 posted on 06/06/2003 10:32:34 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Was it wrong for Hitler to gas the Jews?
2 posted on 06/06/2003 10:36:36 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: ValenB4; Scenic Sounds; gcruse; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Sir Gawain; Sparta; Abundy; Amelia; ...
My latest. I lost my ping list, so if you want on or off or if I missed you, let me know.
3 posted on 06/06/2003 10:40:07 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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Not only do I want to be on your ping list, I want to be first.
4 posted on 06/06/2003 10:44:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I've decided to cut back my tagline, one word at a)
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What about the increased risk of breast cancer in women who have abortions?

If I remember correctly, a pro-life group was successfully sued for contending that publicly, in an attempt to dissude women from going to abortion clinics.

You think you're the first to come up with "practical" reasons not to abort? Actually, its that line of attack that has most incensed the pro abortion people; there nothing that ticks them off more than some "hostile" group telling women whats "healthy" or not. To them, its all propaganda.

5 posted on 06/06/2003 10:45:20 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: patton
Was it wrong for Hitler to gas the Jews?

If Hitler had worked in a filling station, would it have been wrong for him to have gassed the Jew's cars?

6 posted on 06/06/2003 10:45:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I've decided to cut back my tagline, one word at a)
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It is so essential that the right-to-life movement in America galvanize behind the idea the logic, not morality, will be what wins the day in this fight, because sometimes, despite the rightness of the intentions, morality has to be left out of the game.

I could live with:

It is so essential that the right-to-life movement in America galvanize behind the idea the logic, in addition to morality,...

How about this logic? We may be within months or years of finding a "genetic" marker (See note below) for a propensity toward homosexuality. If abortion is still legal when that is discovered, how many parents are going to choose that option rather that giving birth to a child who may become gay?

NOTE - A genetic marker for gayness would not interfere with Christianity any more that a propensity toward drunkeness makes alcoholism acceptable to God or a propensity toward violence would make assualting others acceptable to God. We ALL have a nature with a propensity to sin. Maybe we all get different tendencies, it doesn't matter. We are all supposed to overcome our sin nature (with Christ's help).

7 posted on 06/06/2003 10:46:48 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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That's a nice article, Cathryn. Clear and concise.
I'll put my counterarguments in a separate post. Well done.
8 posted on 06/06/2003 10:46:51 AM PDT by gcruse (Superstition is a mind in chains.)
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Although I am a Conservative, I simply can not blindly agree with the effort to make all abortions illegal.

I grew up in the 1970's when women that I personally knew in High School dies from back alley abortions. If they must have an abortion, I do want it done legally and in a hospital.

However, I follow the ancient rule about abortions: When the baby starts to kick, then it is has become an individual and his/her life should be protected.

My own daughter is in this situation. Once that baby started to kick, abortion is no longer an option. If she dared to have an abortion, I would never speak to her again.

She agreed with me and wanted the baby.

9 posted on 06/06/2003 10:47:09 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Texaggie79
"Cathryn Crawford is a student from Texas"

nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more

10 posted on 06/06/2003 10:48:11 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: patton
Of course.

I didn't say that abortion isn't morally wrong. I believe it is. However, the essential words in that sentence are I believe.

Not everyone has the same moral beliefs as I do. Therefore, I will not change someone's mind by pounding into their heads the fact that I believe abortion is wrong.

That's why we have to use logic.

11 posted on 06/06/2003 10:48:23 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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I agree with this. We need to get through to people anyway we can. If someone is turned off by the religious aspects of this murder, we need some medical facts like the ones quoted to back it up.
12 posted on 06/06/2003 10:48:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Lazamataz
Only they drove VW's
13 posted on 06/06/2003 10:48:52 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Lazamataz
Only if they drove VW's
15 posted on 06/06/2003 10:49:31 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (Doh!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Thank you for your very informative post.
16 posted on 06/06/2003 10:49:32 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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To: Lazamataz
Was my post so obscure as to be funny? Darn. So much for the Socratic method.
17 posted on 06/06/2003 10:50:52 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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Well, I thought that last part was important, and I was only trying to help Texaggie79....

Haven't thought of a reply to your post yet. Let me dwell on it.
18 posted on 06/06/2003 10:51:41 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Work "smarter" as well as "harder."
19 posted on 06/06/2003 10:52:56 AM PDT by UnklGene
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20 posted on 06/06/2003 10:53:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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