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To: ValenB4; Scenic Sounds; gcruse; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Sir Gawain; Sparta; Abundy; Amelia; ...
My latest. I lost my ping list, so if you want on or off or if I missed you, let me know.
3 posted on 06/06/2003 10:40:07 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Not only do I want to be on your ping list, I want to be first.
4 posted on 06/06/2003 10:44:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I've decided to cut back my tagline, one word at a)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
It is relatively easy to convince a person who shares your morals of a point of view – you simply appeal to whatever brand of morality that binds the two of you together. However, when you are confronted with someone that you completely disagree with on every point, to what can you turn to find common ground?

I’m so pleased that you chose to make that point in the disarming form of a question. Your point is such a good and important one.

Arguments framed in terms of morality are great for persuading others who share our moral views and who are therefore more or less predisposed to agree with us anyway. Much of the time, though, “preaching to the choir” just doesn’t gain enough supporters to carry the day.

And the reality is that it’s next to impossible, by repetitive recitation of our moral views alone, to persuade those people who do not themselves share those views. Attempting to pummel people or trying to shame them into “agreement” is usually a complete (and very ugly) waste of time and energy. Like you say, it becomes necessary at that point to find some other common ground (like logic and reason) upon which an appeal to those particular people can be based.

Another great column, Cathryn. Keep up the good work. ;-)

177 posted on 06/06/2003 12:31:27 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds ( "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.")
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To: Cathryn Crawford
she has a GREAT point, and logical argument.....alas, most people in this country only go by their emotions, not logic.

The Capt.
360 posted on 06/06/2003 2:39:52 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I long ago abandoned anti-abortion arguments funded in the Bible or biblical based morality. You only communicate to those who already agree with you, for the most part. There are a lot of purely logical arguments based in reality as observed by everyone.

446 posted on 06/06/2003 4:56:02 PM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people.)
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