[dansangel]

I still say the most UNSAFE I feel is the places where I know NO ONE is allowed to carry a concealed weapon, i.e. schools and bars.

Agreed. That's why I've had to avoid public gatherings except for the America Rally in Centennial Park last March. I wasn't carrying there, for obvious reasons, but I still had my pepper spray on me.

The sad thing is, most folks licensed to carry concealed *DO* have common sense - criminals don't. That's what makes "no carry zones" scary.

[Dark Knight]

>>But within that liberal framework, state lawmakers have passed some limits on gun rights. In certain cases, the need for public safety has outweighed individual rights. Those include a prohibition on firearms in courthouses, public mental health facilities, stadiums, convention centers, places that sell alcohol, schools and school buses. <<

Courthouses...where unhappy criminals are, and lots of cops too.

mental health facilities...A lockdown area with little access to weapons at all.

Stadiums, convention centers...places that if used, even in self defense, the potential for injuring bystanders is high.

Any place serving alcohol...uh duh!

Schools and CCW permit holding staff and parents...to me, that's a hard sell.

Parks...Are parks bristling with cops and unhappy criminals. (remember, the criminals have to be unhappy) Would parks be weapon free, or just legal weapon free? Are they so crowded that there is a high probability of innocents being hurt? Has the park been a place where they sell wine and beer?

Would the city council take responsiblity for a rape, if a woman was not able to defend herself with her weapon? Of course not. Are they going to start searching people before entry, or is it just law abiding CCW permit holders that are expected to follow the "law".

Liberal cities always want to infringe on this right. Thank goodness the state constitution preempted them.

DK