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To: Kudsman
No, you may want to consider that the ends only justify the means, if the means and the ends are so diametrically opposed and unable to entertain even the thought of the ability to negotiate a solution.
The "Kill them all" factor must weigh in, because that is what most of the rest of us view you "hardliners" as.The entire rest of the world would much rather remain neutral,because the loud and stupid voices from both "sides" involve a level of abject stupidity most civilised people eschew.
Even then, one must factor in right and wrong, whether or not one brings God into the dispute.
When reduced to that choice,the obvious answer to rational peace is the total destruction of those who claim to be Palestinians.
The world will not endure another genocide of Jews.
The world may be up for a new genocide of those who advocate Islamic hatred.
Does your Allah give you 72 virgins if we, the entire balance of all of humanity, yearn to destroy you before you can murder innocent men,women and children?






17 posted on 06/10/2003 7:16:31 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France.Ignore Germany.Forgive Russia..)
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To: sarasmom
What are you talking about? You are confused to say the least.

you may want to consider that the ends only justify the means, if the means and the ends are so diametrically opposed and unable to entertain even the thought of the ability to negotiate a solution.

You lost me here with the very first sentence. I did not at anytime suggest not to negotiate a solution. I will point out that a solution imposed by an occupier/oppressor is hardly negotiation. Niether solution at the point of a Russian soldiers gun nor solution of suicide bombings has been advocated by myself. I merely point out that arrogance of oppressors decree's only inflame those that perceive themselves as the oppressed.

The "Kill them all" factor must weigh in, because that is what most of the rest of us view you "hardliners" as.

What do you view me as? A kill them all factor? Again I have no idea what you are talking about.

When reduced to that choice,the obvious answer to rational peace is the total destruction of those who claim to be Palestinians. So much for the negotiation you just a moment ago were advocating huh? Now I ask you who is advocating the Kill em all mentality? Look in the mirror sister. But I guess as long as it suits your side (whatever side that is) its okay right?

The world may be up for a new genocide of those who advocate Islamic hatred. Does your Allah give you 72 virgins if we, the entire balance of all of humanity, yearn to destroy you before you can murder innocent men,women and children? Once again, as you have yet to do, please point out the post in which you think I advocate Islamic hatred. Do you actually read what people post or do you rely on others blind biased interpretations of what some say? I am not even Muslim. I am Catholic. I have been promised no amount of virgins by anyone. I have been offered life eternal if I accept and dedicate myself to serving God through Jesus. As such I disagree with tyranny in the form of a man made oppressive government like that of the USSR and modern day Russia where the state decrees rights to citizens instead of the other way around. Man is meant to be free. It is free citizens granting a limited government specific powers that was the basis of our founders. All men everywhere should have the freedom to decide how they wished to be ruled. The Russians believe that humanity exists to serve the state. With this I will always wholeheartily disagree. I am sorry if you wish to remain neutral on this. It is that point of view that has allowed Socialism to grow in this country.

18 posted on 06/10/2003 9:11:15 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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