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To: adam_az
1st, Marshall plan was great, yeah, but Germany wasn´t the major recipient just to inform you. We got ca. 10% of the funds.

2nd, you paid for the reunification with GDR? Really? You surely can show me excerpts of the US federal budget and tell me exactly what the US paid for and how much. Reunification cost(ed) estimated 1.000.000.000.000 DEM. How much did the US paid? I´ll tell you: zero.

Facts are stronger than history. And I can tell you that I´m not very content that my country lost huge parts of its former size to Poland and the Czech, that millions died... but it´s no longer ours, it is a fact. That we lost the war could make the explanation easier, but it´s not a justification to expropriate and even kill these millions. How will Israel feel - it has won the wars (1948, 1967), though they want the land! Must be hard, but you must admit that it´s not really Israel we refer to as "Gaza" and "WB", just as Posen, Schlesien, East-, West-Prussia, etc are not Germany today.

Mourning now, that the facts are there, is useless. One should have prevented that these facts are made (and we, in Europe should do so NOW!).

You are a good guy, though we strongly disagree on the Mid East conflict. I hope that the Road Map will give the "big four" (US, EU, UN, Russia) right and that we will see peace, the sooner the better.

So many people have discussed that issue so many times. Everybody has his own beliefs how to solve it, I´m off here now. I hope, that you could have get an insight of how I feel about the conflict, and I can tell you that I saw you point, although I cannot accept it as an argument for the present.

Many regards,

Michael


83 posted on 06/08/2003 7:31:06 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
"2nd, you paid for the reunification with GDR? Really? You surely can show me excerpts of the US federal budget and tell me exactly what the US paid for and how much. Reunification cost(ed) estimated 1.000.000.000.000 DEM. How much did the US paid? I´ll tell you: zero."

How much did we pay to oppose the Soviets and collapse the Soviet Union, leading to the disintegration of the Soviet bloc, and East Germany collapsing? QUite a bit more than $0! All the while, Germans were whining "RONNY RAYGUN" etc etc.

YOU refer to "West Bank" because you don't know history of the region, which is why history is unimportant to you. Also, the history of Germany is important to you, because it has immediate impact on you. How brash, to think that knowing little to nothing about mid east history means that history is unimportant and that your opinion based on your feelings which are based on articles written in left wing german news papers counts for anything, or has any validity. In Yiddish, that's called CHUTZPAH, meaning "nerve"

84 posted on 06/08/2003 7:36:40 AM PDT by adam_az
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