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To: Michael81Dus; yonif; SJackson; adam_az; BabsC
E.g. no German claims the right of the always-have-been-German-land of Posen, Pommern, West-, Ostpreußen, Schlesien (now Poland and Russia) anymore.

Applying that same historic parallel that you just introduced, Israel could have annexed the West Bank in 1967 (then claimed by Jordan as part of its country) and expelled all Arabs from there because Israel had been attacked by Jordan, just as Poland and Czechoslovakia etc. had been attacked by Germany.

In reality, Israel did not expel the Arabs from there. In reality, at different times Israel was willing to give back all, nearly all, or most of the acquired territory in exchange for peace, starting as early as 1967. These peace offers were ignored every time by the Arabs, with the exception of Egypt's al-Sadat, who promptly was given back the vast Sinai in 1978.

If the Warsaw pact had followed a policy similar to Israel's, then Germany would have been restored to most of its WW II losses, and most of its refugees would have returned to East Prussia etc.

Wisely, however, the Germans accepted that they lost the war, and accepted the consequences. When will you hold up the Arabs to the same standard?

If the airport was abused, the IDF should have occupied it and took over control of the im- and export. But they prefered to slap into the EU´s face and destroy it. It was financed with MY money.

This is just the kind of smarmy, arrogant self-righteousness that I've come to expect from you. First of all, you are a 22-year old university student. I doubt that you paid any income taxes last year, or if you did, that you were not repaid in full this year. I, however, pay a lot of (German) income taxes, and I'm not happy to see how the money is being spent on training future lawyers to argue deceitfully.

Second, you are outraged that the Israelis destroyed the Arab airport, but not that EU money was used to smuggle arms illegally? Where is your sense of priority? Finally, if you don't like war, then don't start one. Arafat chose war in 2000, and the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and Gaza followed. The crying and moaning at the damage is just for show, for European consumption, and you gobble it up eagerly.

And reg the houses-destruction: has there been a sentence that found the relatives guilty of aiding and abiding for murder? NO. That what the IDF did is just self-justice, and that´s illegal. We live in states where collective guilt doesn´t exist, and that´s something we can be proud of.

Don't send thousands of suicide bombers into Israel, and the houses of their families won't be flattened (after they have been made to leave). It's that simple. Also, maybe it wasn't such a good idea of the West Bank/Gaza Arabs after all to distribute videos in which the suicide bombers' mothers spoke of their pride and joy at their children's actions -- in some cases recorded before they went to blow up Israeli civilians.

The dilemma of the US and Israel is, to find solutions to fight terrorism by keeping our free society that even treats its enemies with respect. We need to fight terrorism both ways: with force and with economy. Motivation for suicide bombing needs to be defeated. That´s impossible to achieve by force, you need economy (rewarding the moderate Muslims).

More leftist propaganda from you. Terrorists deserve no respect, they must be killed. The motivation for suicide bombing is not despair but hope. Until the second Intifada, Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza had per-capita income second only to the oil-rich Arabs and Lebanon, but ahead of all other Arab nations such as Algiers, Morocco, etc. They threw that overboard to realize their dream of destroying Israel.

62 posted on 06/07/2003 5:01:42 AM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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66 posted on 06/07/2003 10:46:13 AM PDT by yonif
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I will not respond to your insulting post, which lacks basic informations about my person and is not more than an irrational post of your hate feelings.
70 posted on 06/07/2003 2:05:58 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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