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"I don´t think that there´s a need for "right of the earliest". Two peoples (Israeli and Palestinian) live in a small land. Both have been there since... ever. The land should be divided (Gaza, WB to Palestinians), with safe borders (fences, maybe mines, etc)."

Even though most of the "Palestinians" are the descendents of recent immigrants who moved to Israel because of the economic opportunity created by Diaspora Jews returning to their homeland?

If you think the "Palestinians" are an ancient people - going back in history, when and where was their country called Palestine? Who were it's leaders? What were it's great cultural achievements? The truth is that the Palestinian identity was coined *after* 1967. There was no Palestinian identity or national movement before 1948, or between 1948 and 1967 for that matter.

"Yes, I think all settlers should leave Gaza and WB. This land should be given to the Palestinians, btw, Jews wouldn´t be safe there either."

The "West Bank" is an artificiality that was illegally occupied by Jordan after 1948. It contains the Tomb of the Patriarch, which is Abrahams tomb. Hebron is the most ancient Jewish city, and has had continuous Jewish inhabitance for about 3500 years give or take (I'm not an archaeologist) with the exception of the Jordanian expulsion. There are 1.3 million Palestinian CITIZENS of Israel - why should Jews not be able to live in a future Palestine?

" If you meant with #3 that Palestinian people, who were forced to move to Gaza and WB ("refugees"), should be given the right to go back, I´d say no. Like the settlers should leave Gaza and WB, no Palestinian should live in the Israeli homeland (and I do exclude Gaza and WB of that homeland)."

They weren't FORCED to move by Israelis - they were URGED to leave temporarily to allow the genocidal Arab attack in 1948 to move in and destroy everything and kill all the Jews.

The real problem is Arab rejectionism of the right for Israel to exist. Israel has tried to make peace with it's neighbors for 55 years, but there hasn't ever been a willing participant on the other side, except for the cold peace with Jordan and Egypt that is only paid for by US tax dollars to a monarchy and a dicatorship.

You are not an antisemite, but I would say that your knowlege of recent and ancient Middle East history is lacking enough that the opinions you expressed are not based on real data, but rather on popular oft-repeated misconceptions.

History doesn´t matter. Today´s facts matter. Today, Palestinians feel as a people and they´re big enough to be a people. Therefore, they are a people.

You asked why jews cannot live in Palestine?
Because they couldn´t live peaceful there. They hate the Palestinians, and the Palestinians hate them.

Let´s face it: Danzig and Königsberg are no German cities today anymore. Hebron is no jewish city today anymore. The difference between both is, that there was no religious motivated conflict in Danzig and Königsberg, when Germans had to leave.

You refer to the Arab rejectionism to accept the right of Israels existance. Of course, the first thing a Palestinian president, when elected and sworn in, has to announce is, that the neighbour Israel is accepted as a sovereign and independant country and that there is no wish to get the land back. Going along with the peace negotiations, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi-Arabia etc should make peace with Israel and acknowledge the right to exist.