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The Guardian Fully Retracts BOTH Powell/Straw Story AND Wolfowitz "It's All About Oil" Story
The Guardian ^ | June 5, 2003

Posted on 06/05/2003 9:21:04 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Corrections and clarifications

Thursday June 5, 2003

In our front page lead on May 31 headlined "Straw, Powell had serious doubts over their Iraqi weapons claims," we said that the foreign secretary Jack Straw and his US counterpart Colin Powell had met at the Waldorf Hotel in New York shortly before Mr Powell addressed the United Nations on February 5. Mr Straw has now made it clear that no such meeting took place. The Guardian accepts that and apologises for suggesting it did.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; ccrm; guardian; iraq; mediabias; mediafraud; medialias; oil; powell; retraction; straw; warlist; wolfowitz
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To: Dont Mention the War
It's only WEDNESDAY and we've had the news week of all time........LOL.........Hitlery, Martha, NYSlimes, LATimes, Slammin Sammy, and now the Guardian........can BBC be far behind!
61 posted on 06/05/2003 11:33:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (without the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Good post. Thank you. (^:

***Operation Infinite Freedom - Situation Room - 5 JUN 03/Day 78***

62 posted on 06/05/2003 11:33:51 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (.."the most basic thing about post-Saddam Iraq: for all the "anarchy", no one's fleeing.~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Dont Mention the War
The funny thing is, all the wackos at DU, IndyMedia, Pacifica, ad nauseum will say the story is true, it's just that the CIA and Rupert Murdoch forced a retraction.
63 posted on 06/05/2003 11:37:36 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Dont Mention the War
I knew it!. Another "Dowding" being committed by the desperate left. As I have said before, fraud is their millieu, and so expect it every time they open their mouths or run their presses.
64 posted on 06/05/2003 11:52:16 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Timesink
It's becoming a day of Ueberschadenfreude!
65 posted on 06/05/2003 12:06:51 PM PDT by PianoMan (Liberate the Axis of Evil)
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To: arasina
Yeah, after the damage is done, they retract it. How many people read the original misstatements and didn't see the retraction?

Agreed on the Straw and Powell at the Waldorf story, but the Wolfowitz "war for oil" story they actuall pulled pretty quickly. It had only been picked up by a few other sites, one being a Pacifica Radio show and another an Islamist website. The only other real news sources I found it in was the lefty Utne Reader, and a South African news site. By the time I got around to posting the later, I reflexively hit "refresh" only to find an announcement that the story was false and The Guardian would be retracting.

If you want to keep an eye out for where the story might still pop up, here is a google news search for "wolfowitz" plus "guardian":

http://news.google.com/news?q=wolfowitz+%2Bguardian&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=G&edition=&scoring=d

66 posted on 06/05/2003 12:45:23 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Dont Mention the War
Any Boulderites or Coloradians want to stomp on the local lefty screed sheet? They're really asking for it with this title. (This is apparently an in-house editorial.)

From The Daily Camera of Boulder, CO

http://www.bouldernews.com/bdc/editorials/article/0,1713,BDC_2489_2012009,00.html

Among the deceivers

Does it matter if we were misled on Iraq? Hell, yes

June 5, 2003

Dictators and democrats alike love to clothe their policies in the language of altruism. But once shorn of rhetorical raiment, naked realpolitik often lies beneath. Now, amid rising doubts about the Bush and Blair administrations' case for attacking Iraq, they are trying to wrap a towel around the nakedness of their misdirections.

George Bush and Tony Blair told us that Iraq posed an imminent threat to our security. Saddam supported the al-Qaida network that attacked America on Sept. 11, 2001, they warned. With great specificity, they described putative stocks of weapons of mass destruction, asserting that Iraq might have a nuke within six months and missiles capable of delivering WMD.

The war mostly went well. Major fighting was over quickly, and while thousands of Iraqis were killed, fewer than 200 British and American troops died (though more go down each week). The ruthless Saddam is gone.

But then things got tricky. Promises of quick transition to Iraqi control have been chucked, efforts to rebuild a destroyed nation are foundering and unrest among the masses rises daily.

And the rationales for a hurry-up war aren't holding up well at all. There was no Saddam-al-Qaida axis. And despite a concerted effort to find them, no WMD have been found. The best evidence so far, two trailers that might have been used to make bio-weapons, hardly constitute a serious threat.

Increasingly, it's clear that pre-war "evidence" of WMD was exaggerated, questioned by intelligence experts and even some of Bush and Blair's top deputies. Some "intelligence" proved to be crude forgeries, or plagiarized from decade-old graduate-student work. A transcript of a meeting between Secretary of State Colin Powell and his British counterpart, Jack Straw, reveals that both men fretted over trumped-up WMD claims. U.S. News and World Report revealed that during a Feb. 1 rehearsal of his U.N. speech urging war, a frustrated Powell threw his script in the air and said "I'm not reading this. This is bull----." (He read the "bull----," anyway.) Intelligence grunts angry that their work was spun, edited and politicized are quietly leaking the truth.

To all this, the Bush and Blair administrations and their media attack dogs respond: It doesn't matter. The point is, they bark, we got rid of a monster, as the discovery of mass graves proves (conveniently ignoring the fact that most of the dead are Shiites slaughtered by Saddam because Bush the first abandoned them following the 1991 Gulf War).

I quoted the whole thing as it is soooooo typical of lefties (and esp of the useful idiots that enable their fostering and defense of totalitarianism) that it is purity of intent, or even the manner that intent is expressed in words (whether it is ever followed up on or not -- see: Clinton, W.J.) that matters more than RESULTS.

I thank God every day I don't have a brain that works like this.

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67 posted on 06/05/2003 2:16:43 PM PDT by Stultis
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68 posted on 06/05/2003 2:22:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: All
Master record here:

IRAQ: Powell Defends Information He Used to Justify Iraq War

69 posted on 06/05/2003 2:30:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: cinFLA; Roscoe; Wolfie
Wow, what are the Libertarians going to, now that the most pro-pot paper in the UK has gone down the New York Times road.
70 posted on 06/05/2003 2:33:05 PM PDT by Dane
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To: cinFLA; Roscoe; Wolfie
Wow, what are the Libertarians going to, now that the most pro-pot paper in the UK has gone down the New York Times road

Excuse me Wolfie, I was happy to see The Guardian exposed for the misleaders they are, I forgot to put the word "do", after the word "to", in the first sentence of the above italicized passage.

71 posted on 06/05/2003 2:39:27 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Quit trying to hijack the thread.
72 posted on 06/05/2003 2:40:21 PM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: jmc813; Wolfie
Quit trying to hijack the thread

What hijacking of the thread?

It is well known that, The Guardian, editorially is pro-pot.

Wolfie posted many of their articles as the "God's honest truth", IMO.

Plus The Guardian has a Los Angeles correspondent, Duncan Campbell, who writes swimmingly of Michael Moore.

73 posted on 06/05/2003 2:46:49 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dont Mention the War
I think the Guardian needs to have some heads role. The scalps of Boyd and Raines have not satisfied me.
74 posted on 06/05/2003 2:51:21 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Howlin; Dog

75 posted on 06/05/2003 3:55:24 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: LayoutGuru2
I went to the Eagles Hell Freezes Over concert in Houston. Pretty good concert.
76 posted on 06/05/2003 4:42:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: Dont Mention the War
Media bias at it's finest. Keep throwing stuff against the wall, whether it's true or not, spin everything as negatively as possible, and then retract quietly after repeated public consumption.
77 posted on 06/05/2003 5:18:35 PM PDT by ilgipper
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I ran the Wolfowitz quote through babelfish and back several times. Through German, French, Spanish, Portugese, probably a few others too. Then back to English.
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78 posted on 06/05/2003 5:40:13 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Dont Mention the War
"The paper claims there is a transcript of the conversation - but it has yet to produce it, admits it has not seen it, but hints mysteriously that a copy of the "Waldorf transcripts" is doing the rounds of "NATO
capitals". Such circulation means that, if it does exist, it will no doubt emerge soon." PERHAPS....they will be bringing in some unemployed U.N. Inspectors...to help find the "transcript"??
79 posted on 06/05/2003 6:06:49 PM PDT by Winfield
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To: Dont Mention the War; hellinahandcart; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; finnman69; nothingnew; ...
From the June 5 Best of the Web Today at WSJ's Opinion Journal:
London's Guardian, which has been pushing the line that the Bush administration and the Blair government "deceived" the public, has two embarrassing corrections today of its own reporting on the matter. Here's the first:

In our front page lead on May 31 headlined "Straw, Powell had serious doubts over their Iraqi weapons claims," we said that the foreign secretary Jack Straw and his US counterpart Colin Powell had met at the Waldorf Hotel in New York shortly before Mr Powell addressed the United Nations on February 5. Mr Straw has now made it clear that no such meeting took place. The Guardian accepts that and apologises for suggesting it did.

And here's the second (which appears on the Guardian's homepage):

A report which was posted on our website on June 4 under the heading "Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil" misconstrued remarks made by the US deputy defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, making it appear that he had said that oil was the main reason for going to war in Iraq. He did not say that. He said, according to the department of defence website, "The . . . difference between North Korea and Iraq is that we had virtually no economic options with Iraq because the country floats on a sea of oil. In the case of North Korea, the country is teetering on the edge of economic collapse and that I believe is a major point of leverage whereas the military picture with North Korea is very different from that with Iraq." The sense was clearly that the US had no economic options by means of which to achieve its objectives, not that the economic value of the oil motivated the war. The report appeared only on the website and has now been removed.

Those who accuse their nations' leaders of lying would seem to be engaging in what psychologists call "projection." Still, cheers to the Guardian for correcting its mistakes, something a certain New York Times columnist has yet to do.

Problem is, I can't find the second correction on Al-Guardian's homepage. But then their 6 June edition is up now. Did we miss it?

Good news is this (apparently) never made the print edition.

80 posted on 06/05/2003 7:41:16 PM PDT by Stultis
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