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Weapons Of Mass Stupidity - (Or only stupid people watch FoxNews - Barf)
Creative Loafing (Charlotte) ^ | June 4, 2003 | HAL CROWTHER

Posted on 06/04/2003 8:48:29 PM PDT by TaxRelief

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To: Buckeroo
>>>Impractical ..... tell me more.

Impractical says it all. Well, almost.

A few other words come to mind, like malcontent, misfit and militant. And who did you vote for in 2000? Browne? Philips? Buchanan? And whose your guy in 2004?

101 posted on 06/04/2003 11:21:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Because I enjoy history and I do not believe “madmen” are created overnight … let me take a minute of your time to summarize recent history in Iraq:

· Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) were sold to Iraq on a regular basis by the United States government; in the 1980’s Ronald Reagan’s dummy minister Donald Rumsfeld ensured this happened as a method for national security under the guise of the National Security Act (1947). These WMD were intended not as “dual-use” bio-toxins but, in fact, freely distributed to Iraq for war with Iran. The goal was to upset the Iranians and to stop a war that was creating problems about the flow of oil into America. Iraq effectively won this war with known deaths of thousands of Iranians as a result of using chemical weapons.
· Saddam Hussein was always a bloodthirsty butcher. As a result of US foreign policy intervention into his little local wars with Iran the madman decided to hit on Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. In a way, the US government encouraged this orgasmic evolution of a modern madman, forgetting everything about what our American republic stands for.
· George Bush defeated Hussein’s warmongering in the Gulf War of 1991 thus protecting the entire gulf region. It was quick and decisive but the effort was not designed to defeat Hussein; it was designed to increase US presence to assure continuing oil flow to America. Some call this policy decision, “stability” but that is pure hogwash under the guise of political BS or international relations; we knew our international policies encouraged this madman and were afraid to exercise a forthright decision by a weak kneed president.

There is an undercurrent issue (through the 1990s) that manifested because of US foreign policy intervention in the middle east (ME), largely dictated by the CIA besides Saddam Hussein. Our increasing influence about the region lead to the rise of another bloodthirsty madman, Osama Bin Laden but this is another parallel issue that we later found out.

· I will bypass Bill Clinton’s work about this hornet’s nest left by two republican presidents because Bill Clinton did nothing but encourage the growth of al-Quada by doing nothing … while he knew all about them; he must have thought of al-Quada as Democrats exercising their political rights planning attacks upon America. We had two American embassies torn to shreds so in effect, he was not only on his knees getting blow jobs; but was begging for America to get a kick in the ass. The pansy did nothing for us; well he shot off a couple missiles into Pakistan missing Afghanistan killing piles of innocent people that made Osama jump with joy about renewed hopes in his efforts.

· Along comes GWBush, a Texas country bumpkin that only knew how to read his own stock reports; someone that lost debate about an election process and required the US Supreme Court to rule in his favor as POTUS. The muther-fucker started off on the wrong foot and his slope has been ongoing into the sewer from there. After 9/11 his first knee-jerk reaction was to eliminate individual rights, liberties and freedoms … by signing a document that is so pervasive an anti-American that he will probably get the US Supreme Court to agree with his treasons.

9/11 performed a large number of simultaneous awakenings to America … the largest issue: it forced America to realize our freedoms are worthless because the government has maintained a worthless policy requiring complete revising; that the American government has not operated upon the sound principals as set forth in the US Constitution. It appears the Patriot Act is set in stone for us …… with ever diminishing individual liberties because of national security.

· Afghanistan was OBL’s Loveland and America knew it for a decade. If you notice, there was never an issue anywhere around the world about the attack America imposed upon Afghanistan; America just took it, scattering the al-Quada evermore around the world pipe bombing Pakistan, India, Israel, Philippines and Europe. It is correct to say, America is in control of Afghanistan. Still, the core issue is that OBL and almost all of his terrorists are scattered everywhere around the world. Good CIA policy? Again?

· Proliferation of WMD was never an issue for America. America’s government readily gave WMD to nation’s understanding specific requirements about the technology. Iraq was one nation under agreement and Iraq obeyed in the 1980’s.

But, Iraq became a suspicious supplier of WMD to rogue organizations only because of 9/11. The CIA reasoning was the attempt upon political leaders in America because anthrax received in the mail. There has never been a known trail of these pure chemical bio-toxins linking Iraq except to US exports back in the 1980’s.

· GWBush, having only scattered al-Quada around the world was left with no other decision but to impact Iraq for all WMD with a clear goal … to diminish America’s already forgotten foreign policy of giving the stuff away. If I were the president I would have done that, too. But GWBush made the issue more than a statement of war. GWBush BS(d) the world about an WMD inventory, including the UN where he had no facts. The UN knew it too; that’s why there was almost zero support within the UN about America’s efforts.. GWBush attempted to rationalize a war with Iraq for no other reason than America could not trace the trail of antrax other than it was produced in the USA!

· GWBush used UN security council 1441 as a tool. This was a bad decision, too. It alienated ALMOST EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD about the policy to introduce war with a sovereign nation for no known reasons. And this is the problem that GWBush has made for America. While he has used his political strength to curtail our freedoms here in America, he has lied about Iraq.

· There are no WMD in Iraq. There haven’t been since the UN was there. It is a myth, a lie, a fabrication because we have a government that blames everyone for our failures upon others. And we shall always be caught up in this cycle of corrupt government showing action BUT NEVER will are government show results; it just keeps digging a hole upon us, the free People of America.

Best Regards!
Buckeroo



102 posted on 06/04/2003 11:26:08 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Huber
LOL
103 posted on 06/04/2003 11:28:23 PM PDT by steelie
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To: Reagan Man; TaxRelief
There are better examples aorund, then this article, that conservatives can use to expose liberals for what they are.

Cool! Post 'em. Thanks in advance!

I don't believe conservatives need to revert to posting leftwing trashtalk and ridicule aimed at best leadership and institutions.

Speaking for myself, I didn't get to be this old without learning how to roll with the punches. Sure, there's better examples of Liberal stupidity out there, but every now and then something like this comes along and just so perfectly shows the desperation of the Left that the article falls into the category of "so bad, it's good!"

Obviously you find something worthwhile in this junk. I do not.

That's cool. But to put this in perspective, nobody's forcing you to read it...much less myself or the fellow who started this thread. Me, I see a few things posted on FR now and again that I could honestly do without, but I figure the members are entitled to their eccentricities.

After 35 years of political involvement, I've seen it all.

Every time I've ever said, "I've seen it all," God has seen fit to prove to me that I haven't. I presume you have not been similarly blessed with such a severe mercy.

I don't need to be exposed to endless reminders of the liberal agenda and I think JimRob's remarks I posted earlier on this thread, supports that idea.

I'm sure JimRob can speak for himself. And if he truly didn't want this thread here, then the Admin Mods would have yanked it.

-Jay

104 posted on 06/04/2003 11:33:18 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Liberty * Liberalism = Constant)
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To: Buckeroo
>>>Along comes GWBush, a Texas country bumpkin ...

I'll bet you had that screed all ready to post. Right, Bucko?! LOL

Yes, freedom of speech is great. However, its best when you speak the truth and when you're right. In your case, you're wrong a lot more then you're right and your facts are convoluted. All you know, is how to name call and make ad hominem attacks against people who are in power. Human beings aren't perfect creatures and your the best example of that I've seen lately.

Carry on.

105 posted on 06/04/2003 11:36:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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106 posted on 06/04/2003 11:39:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Reagan Man
All you read was my inference about the chief country bumpkin' in charge .... you didn't comment upon any of the other points or issues.

Does this mean you agree with the rest of my post?


107 posted on 06/04/2003 11:41:02 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Jay D. Dyson
>>>Cool! Post 'em. Thanks in advance!

Grow up.

Look, conservatives understand that the left is desperate. We don't need an article like this to explain the obvious to us. Its an effort in liberal ridicule. Pure and simple. You may find crap like this interesting and enlightening. For me, its neither interesting or enlightening. Its garbage! LOL

The fact you're spending so much of your time defending this article, makes me wonder what your politics really are. This is a conservative website and should not be used to spread the liberal agenda. Unless of course, you're a liberal. If thats the case, in the future I'd take your liberalism to a more appropriate venue. Like DU.

108 posted on 06/04/2003 11:50:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

"Yes, freedom of speech is great. However, its best when you speak the truth and when you're right." -- Reagan Man

Rehash of King George (King of England spin) quotes, circa 1762.
109 posted on 06/04/2003 11:52:45 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
>>>All you read was my inference about the chief country bumpkin' in charge ....

Wrong. I read every word you wrote. I'll take GWBush as POTUS over you any time. The fact you've gathered all that negative rhetoric and presented it as conclusive evidence of Bushes failure, means only one thing to me. You're just another anti-Bush crusader.

You must live an ugly life to be so damn pessimistic and so paranoid.

110 posted on 06/05/2003 12:02:50 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Buckeroo
>>>Rehash of King George (King of England spin) quotes, circa 1762.

Wrong again. Its an original quote from me, Reagan Man. LOL I'm sorry you don't believe in the truth and can't square with what's right.

111 posted on 06/05/2003 12:06:38 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Later, little Buckeroo.
112 posted on 06/05/2003 12:09:33 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: TaxRelief
Back in the Bad old days of the Soviet Union they had two channels. On the first it was nothing but state approved propaganda 24/7. On the second channel a sinister man would appear , look straight at you, and say , "turn back to channel one!"

This guy wants you to go back to ABCNNBCBS.

113 posted on 06/05/2003 12:13:01 AM PDT by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: Reagan Man

"Later, little Buckeroo. " --
BTW ... your condenscending remarks about how I am "little" worries me. Have you seen my stats? I think the world of you; you are a lucky dog.
114 posted on 06/05/2003 12:19:36 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
I suggest you may be happier in another country?
115 posted on 06/05/2003 12:25:18 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Nateman

"Back in the Bad old days of the Soviet Union they had two channels. On the first it was nothing but state approved propaganda 24/7. On the second channel a sinister man would appear , look straight at you, and say , "turn back to channel one!"" -- Nateman

Today, America doesn't care about anything .... the government just pays for more "mindspeak" based upon government suppressing the People. Never do you hear or see or read about government honoring our basic institutions that establashed America. The concepts of individual freedom, liberty and rights are under court restraint.
116 posted on 06/05/2003 12:28:28 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: MEG33
Not when over 50% of my hard earned money goes to countries that you want to shift me off to. Man, there is something WRONG with American government.... it has screwed us all.
117 posted on 06/05/2003 12:30:37 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
I hope someday you may find your perfect place.
118 posted on 06/05/2003 12:33:56 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: hole_n_one
Look, I'm disappointed. I don't hate Bush; I don't despise Bush; I don't disagree with everything for which Bush stands. I won't vote for Bush again.

That post was in response to the issue of rights erosion taking place under this administration. In context, I said:

I don't see how anyone can vote for Bush again. While the brownshirts (anti-Bush = traitor) defend every lie by saying 'Bush is just fooling the Dems', in actuality, he is lying to us too. We cannot believe anything coming from Washington or the intelligence community anymore. Now I’m seeing Russia, Cuba, Iran, and Syria on the radar screen. Why should we believe these new intelligence reports? Are we going to war against the entire World? It goes on and on. Like locking up citizens with no lawyer or trial by defining them as terrorists. Bye bye Constitution. There for a while, half the country was being called traitors. Where does it end? Were those 3000 lives worth throwing all our rights and freedoms away?

Are you defending these intrusions for the sake of 'safety'? We won't get these rights back. Do you think the Dems won't exploit all these new intrusive laws? Do you think Hillary won't? I also said:

How will the bushbots spin this latest intrusion? Another 'if you have nothing to hide' excuse maybe? I don't want the Dems or GOP to have this kind of power. It sickens me. I don't see how anyone can defend all these policies being enacted 'in the name of our security'. I'll take my chances with the terrorists, thank you very much.

I could go on. I consider myself a conservative. But as others have said, this board pushes me to Libertarianism. The two party systems love your partisanship. See tagline. I see a dog; I call it a dog. So if you want to give context, give it all.
119 posted on 06/05/2003 12:34:25 AM PDT by KCmark (I am NOT a partisan.)
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To: MEG33
It certainly will never be within the traitor republican party that loves the UN.
120 posted on 06/05/2003 12:37:37 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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