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MISSING OUT: Poor families face the reality of no tax rebate
The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 | Ted Roelofs

Posted on 06/04/2003 4:47:05 PM PDT by FourPeas

MISSING OUT: Poor families face the reality of no tax rebate

Wednesday, June 04, 2003

By Ted Roelofs
The Grand Rapids Press


With six children to look after, a broken-down van and an annual income of about $15,000, Kalala Palmer figures she could use a break.

She shops at Goodwill for clothes for her kids and buys them new shoes only on their birthdays. She struggles to pay the YMCA membership she hopes will keep them off the streets.

The 26-year-old Grand Rapids resident also is among millions of working-poor families left out in the cold by the $350 billion tax cut signed in May by President Bush.

"It hurts, but when you've been poor as long as I've been, you just deal with it," Palmer said. "What do you have to do to get on top?"

It's a question under debate this week in Congress, as politicians come under fire for omitting working-poor families from the $400-per-child tax credit going to much of middle-class America.

According to analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the tax cut measure leaves families earning up to $26,625 a year with no tax credit. That affects 8 million children.

At the same time, $400-per-child rebate checks are expected to be in the mailboxes of millions of middle-class households by July.

Though Bush officials defended the measure, it is a void some Republicans are looking to fill before it becomes campaign ammunition for the Democrats.

Senate Finance Committee chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, introduced a provision Monday to expand the number of families eligible for per-child tax credits -- and to increase the size of those credits -- as part of a broader effort to make the middle-income child credit permanent.

Grassley's proposal would cost up to $90 billion over 10 years.

In contrast, Sens. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, introduced legislation to aid the same poor families, at a 10-year cost of $3.5 billion.

Bush aides say the measure signed by the president May 28 is fair, because low-income families like that of Kalala Palmer pay no income tax. White House spokesman Ari Fleisher said poor and minimum-wage families receive government benefits in other ways, through programs such as food stamps, Medicaid and earned income tax credits.

"By actually forgiving all income taxes and then giving people money beyond that, it's not the same way other people on the income scale are treated," Fleisher said.

U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Holland, agrees.

"Tax reform is not about payments to the working poor," Hoekstra said. "Per-child tax credit is exactly that. It is a credit against liabilities owed to the federal government."

Hoekstra said he is willing to consider extra help for the working poor but would make no promises.

"If there are certain people in the Senate that want to make direct cash payments to the poor, then we should have that discussion. I don't know whether or not I would vote for it."

But U.S. Rep. Vern Ehlers, R-Grand Rapids, believes Congress ought to revisit the issue.

"I think it's a reasonable sort of thing to do," Ehlers said.

Though working-poor families might not qualify for a tax credit because they pay no income tax, Ehlers thought it reasonable to give them some help, too.

"Since the purpose is to help people with children, then it makes sense to be sure it applies to everyone who has children."

Though her circumstances are anything but easy, Kalala Palmer tries to find the humor in life to keep her spirits up.

She recalled a recent discussion with a friend, who informed her that Congress was going to pass tax breaks for individuals who get stock dividends.

"What in the world is that?" she said of stock dividends, starting to laugh. "I ain't got no stock. There's no way I got that stuff. You got to laugh about this stuff because it hurts too much to be crying."

Until January, Palmer worked as a nurse's aide, sometimes working double shifts to try to make ends meet. Then she became worried about her oldest son, Terrell, whom she feared was getting into trouble on the streets.

She quit her job to keep an eye on him, and now earns money making clothing and doing alterations out of her home. Her aunt pitches in to help with child care, and Palmer also gets a federal subsidy to pay most of her rent.

On the wall in her dining room, she keeps a series of sayings she posted at the suggestion of her church pastor. They include such sayings as, "Be Kind to Each Other" and "No Shouting to Each Other," and one reads: "The Palmer name is a good name and we are good people."

Outside her house, Palmer looks at her 1989 Chevy Astro van, with sagging suspension, rusty doors that don't open and a large dent on the right side. She muses what it would be like to get a better car.

"If I had a car and a nice house, I wouldn't know what to do. One day, all these rainy days are going to end."



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To: fightinJAG
"But don't insult my intelligence by trying to call a hand-out a "tax cut."

That's exactly what they are trying to do. They are trying to frame tax cuts in the context of handouts. It suits their evil purposes to do so.
101 posted on 06/06/2003 12:36:21 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: HassanBenSobar
I heard that she would be receiving around $77. Not a great deal, and she didn't earn it... it is a rebate, right? It is returning the tax funds to those who have paid them. It isn't welfare!
102 posted on 06/06/2003 12:41:01 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: IronJack
"What can be clearer than that? Or is this another exercise in liberal "logic," where up is down, strong is weak, darkness is light, and inequity is fair?"

...and slavery is freedom....(Hayek?)
103 posted on 06/06/2003 12:42:58 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: FourPeas
With six children to look after

an annual income of about $15,000



The 26-year-old

Palmer said. "What do you have to do to get on top?"

Well climb off the top of the man(or men) you are making those babies with Kalala(?). That would be a start! How are people raised this stupid that they don't see that they are the own purveyors of their misfortune! 26 and with 6 children. I hardly doubt there has been time for a college education in the midst of all that baby making and I will be very surprised if those were fathered with one person and if they were, if the parents are married to one another. Kalala made the choice to romp in the sack instead of making it so she didn't have to be "working poor". Yes, 15K a year for a family of 7 is pathetic, but who made one mistake after another to make that a reality by the time they hit their mid 20s?
104 posted on 06/06/2003 12:48:35 PM PDT by glory
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To: HassanBenSobar
I bet she already gets money back above anything she might pay in in the way of earned income credit and head of household. I've seen people pulling in a pretty penny for a couple of kids, let alone 6!
105 posted on 06/06/2003 12:49:39 PM PDT by glory
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To: HassanBenSobar
Oh and if we add in her section 8, wic, food stamps, head start, etc...I bet she's making closer to 40k a year on the taxpayers backs!
106 posted on 06/06/2003 12:50:14 PM PDT by glory
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To: supercat
With that many kids, don't you worry, she is getting all kinds of assistance already. Her real "income" is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40k if you factor that in.
107 posted on 06/06/2003 12:52:03 PM PDT by glory
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To: FITZ
This stuff irritates me too because I bet I pay for Kalala's kids in head start--We paid out a pretty penny this year in taxes. The sad thing is I need that money for my own children! Our son was just diagnosed on the autism spectrum and the intervention is outrageous and insurance doesn't cover it. I sure would like back a piece of the several thousand dollars we paid in taxes to cover regular speech therapy with a private provider.
109 posted on 06/06/2003 12:55:16 PM PDT by glory
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To: Constitutional Patriot
Or is this another exercise in liberal "logic," where up is down, strong is weak, darkness is light, and inequity is fair?"

Of course it is. That's the only kind of "logic" a liberal is capable of understanding.

For some unaccountable reason, my wife insists on watching NBC Evening News. If I have to hear that simple-minded buffoon Brokaw chant the "no tax cut for the poor" Democrat mantra one more time, I'll have to drive over to Best Buy the same evening and pick up another Sony to replace the one with the smashed-in screen.

110 posted on 06/06/2003 12:56:24 PM PDT by epow
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To: HassanBenSobar
"Kalala" has certainly been a busy girl. I wonder where the daddie(s) is/are? I also have to wonder how much gubmint assistance she's getting for her little nino's. SOMEONE is paying for her children and it ain't her.
111 posted on 06/06/2003 1:00:55 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: FourPeas
With six children to look after, a broken-down van and an annual income of about $15,000, Kalala Palmer figures she could use a break.

...from procreating with deadbeats like an animal and producing children she cannot afford, is what I hope she means.

Actually, Kalala,it is we taxpayers who needed the break from supporting the likes of people whose irresponsible sexual choices, and their failure to hold themselves accountable for their own circumstance, have led to their own poor quality of life. And THAT, as paltry as it is, is what we got.

112 posted on 06/06/2003 1:01:33 PM PDT by Ignatz (Scribe of the Unwritten Law. Hey, someone's gotta not write this stuff down!)
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To: supercat
super, I think it depends on the number of dependents you have as well. For example food stamps(just off the top of my head) is somewhere around 24k for a family of 4--so this woman qualifies for quite a bit in food stamps. As for section 8, some of my hubbies neices and nephews who are just as irresponsible as this young lady are getting it and they all work. One couple is even married, but most make out on it because they live with the father(of one of their kids) but claim they are single mothers so most are making in the neighborhood really of 35-40k and then get all of the handouts too because the other income isn't reported. I'm telling you, this thing is a racket, it really is.
113 posted on 06/06/2003 1:02:28 PM PDT by glory
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To: optimistically_conservative
Holy smokes--I took the EITC and added in the other 400.00 if she received it, plus medicaid for the kids insurance, head start, food stamps, wic, section 8 and this lady makes out the equivalent to between 30k-40k a year! She is making as much as many middle class families who actually have to earn money and pay taxes. In fact, many of them probably end up with less after taxes. This type of crap probably makes tired people just want to throw in the towel.
114 posted on 06/06/2003 1:08:17 PM PDT by glory
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To: epow
"I'll have to drive over to Best Buy the same evening and pick up another Sony to replace the one with the smashed-in screen."

I was blessed with a wife who is as conservative as I am. I can remember having to pull her off the Sony during the 2000 election recounts....that is...when she wasn't pulling me off the Sony...
115 posted on 06/06/2003 1:10:41 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: supercat
Does anyone have specifics?

There are a number of links available for welfare research at http://www.financeprojectinfo.org/win/dataportal.asp

IMHO, the debate is not whether the income tax of the bottom 50% of those that even bother to file a tax return is too high. It's not. According to the IRS, the tax burden is more progressive now than it was under Clinton. (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/01in03at.xls)

The debate is whether there needs to be additional transfers of income from half of us to the other half through mandated government programs like EITC and others. The debate is what happens when 50% or more of us are dependant on the government taking from those that study, sacrifice and strive to finance others' retirement, disabilities, poor choices and desired quality of life.

For example, try the link (http://www.connect2jobs.org/connect2cash/) and type in hourly wages of $5.15, $7.20, and $12.80 for 40 hour weeks, 52 weeks a year and either One or Two+ children.

The bottom line is that the current structures of wealth redistrubution between classes and generations will go bankrupt because of demographics in a few decades. Either we start having serious discussions without the polemic partisanship, or we pay a much higher price with fewer options later.

The actual Center on Budget and Policy Priorities report is at http://www.cbpp.org/.

116 posted on 06/06/2003 6:28:53 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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