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To: Trace21230
What about the ten 45-year old sugar daddies that smooze 16-year old girls into sex?

I don't hear you commenting on that, or ascribing this activity (pedophilia) to all heterosexuals.

Are you endorsing pedophilia by your silence?

Well the obvious answer is that there's no such thing as NAMGLA (Noth Am. Man Girl Love Assoc.) , and there's no "Straight Pride" events in which this group would be included. The 45-Y/O sugar daddy who's caught with the 16 year old girl is quite properly arrested and we don't see anyone advocating support for him. It's kind of the same logic why we don't have straight males leading girl scout troops.

194 posted on 06/05/2003 4:53:31 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb; Trace21230; scripter
"Well the obvious answer is that there's no such thing as NAMGLA (Noth Am. Man Girl Love Assoc.) , and there's no "Straight Pride" events in which this group would be included. The 45-Y/O sugar daddy who's caught with the 16 year old girl is quite properly arrested and we don't see anyone advocating support for him."


Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered (The taboo against sex with children continues to erode)

"... Four-plus years and many other challenges to the same taboo later, it is clear that this hypothesis got something wrong. For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."

Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls.

No: As was true four years ago, contemporary efforts to rationalize, legitimize, and justify pedophilia are about boys. Forget about abstractions like nihilism; what the record shows is something more prosaic. The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this "question," settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement.


The Problem with Equivalence: "Pedophilia Chic" defended

201 posted on 06/05/2003 7:10:15 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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