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FAS (Fed Am Scientist) Report: Iraqi Precursor Chemicals Stored Separately for Weapon-side Mixing
FAS.org ^ | Federation of American Scientists

Posted on 06/04/2003 6:47:53 AM PDT by HatSteel

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To: Grampa Dave
This ties directly to Pres. Bush saying yesterday (day before?) that WMDs HAD BEEN FOUND. He then cited the "mobile weapons labs."

It makes perfect sense given weapon-side mixing of chem and bio.

It would be like the cops looking for amphetamines and ignoring the discovery of a production lab with all the precursor chemicals --- just because at that point in time there weren't any fully prepared amphetamines on site!

But cops are FAR smarter than democRATs.

41 posted on 06/04/2003 10:08:57 AM PDT by HatSteel
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To: HatSteel
What you posted will become obvious to those with a brain.

The professional hate GW crews on the left and right will never see it.
42 posted on 06/04/2003 10:09:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Skywalk
Some farmer/rancher noted on a circulating email that I got during the war re the barrels of pesticides, herbicides and pure alcohol listed as found: That you could treat all of California's farms and ranchs for a few years. I wished that I had kept that email.
43 posted on 06/04/2003 10:12:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; HatSteel
Here are some more:

WARNING: Gathering WMD storm a crock. See what Clinton told nation in 1998...

THE ROAD ENDS FOR WMD ON WHEELS

Coalition forces enter possible WMD site

Initial tests suggest WMD "cocktail" found in Iraq (**Of special note--post #58, by Archy)

U.S. finds new evidence of Iraqi WMD (NBC training school, antidotes)

Chem-weapons lab believed discovered

BRITS' CHILLING CHEM-NUKE FIND

CAPTURED FOES FOUND WITH CHEM-WAR GEAR

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

Is the Activity at Al Qaim Related to Nuclear Efforts?

U.S. probing nuclear facility (Al Tuwaitha Follow Up)

Team Inspects suspected plutonium site (update by the journalist who broke original story, NEW info)

Underground Nuclear Facility Found in Iraq

Marines hold Iraqi nuclear site built by French

U.S. Marines Guard Secret Iraqi City with Very Hot Nuclear Radiation Levels

These are some I found, but it should also be mentioned that a search on "chem" "nuclear" "nuke" and "WMD" will turn up many more. Also "plutonium."

44 posted on 06/04/2003 10:13:25 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: HatSteel
This is an excellent analogy:

It would be like the cops looking for amphetamines and ignoring the discovery of a production lab with all the precursor chemicals --- just because at that point in time there weren't any fully prepared amphetamines on site!

45 posted on 06/04/2003 10:13:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: archy
Archy, meant to ping you to #44, since I mentioned one of your posts from another thread!
46 posted on 06/04/2003 10:15:37 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Freeper "Archy" had noted that back in early April--great post by him on the thread mentioned above.
47 posted on 06/04/2003 10:17:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Grampa Dave; sharktrager; backhoe
OK , got this (see post #2)

IRAQ: Irrigation problems could affect grain crop in southern Iraq: FAO

And this:

IRAQ: It’s Springtime in Baghdad

And see post #8 by sharktrager !!!!!!!

48 posted on 06/04/2003 10:21:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: HatSteel; MizSterious; Skywalk
See above Links at pst #48!
49 posted on 06/04/2003 10:24:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Got more!
50 posted on 06/04/2003 10:25:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: dixiechick2000
Remember the pesticides!
51 posted on 06/04/2003 10:27:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: All; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER
He takes good care of his plants, watering them from the river, which is better for flowers and plants, according to his neighbor Abbas Al-Amiri from Al-Amiri nursery. “Tigris water is better than the tap water from the tanks,” he said. As for the red sand that covers Baghdad when the seasonal khamasin winds blow, he said it does the plants no harm.

“In fact, it protects them from insects, because we can’t afford to buy the pesticides or the proper soil.”

So who was buying the pesticides?

52 posted on 06/04/2003 10:33:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: MizSterious
Wonderful list. Thanks. I'm adding it to my own.

Here's what I've got so far. *** = Important

Terrorist devices, chemical weapons found in Iraq

Suspicious Iraqi Drums - UPDATE

Suspected bioweapons labs found

Searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Larry Elder

Iraq's Weapons and the Road to War

Iraqi Scientist Links Weapons to 'Dual Use' Facilities, White House Says

IRAQ: U.S. Analysts Link Iraq Labs to Germ Arms

Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert

Herald Sun: Soldiers find Iraqi chemical 'dump'

***Germany's leading role in arming Iraq

*Germany intercepts (30 tonnes) chemicals (may be used to make nerve gas) for N Korea

New DOD team to hunt for intel as well as weapons

***Chemical Weapons Programs

Capture of chemical expert could help U.S. weapons hunt in Iraq (Emad Husayn Abdulla al-Ani)

Belgium Finds Nerve Gas Ingredient in Letters

Banned missile programme found in Iraq

Administration to Announce 'Rollback' Strategy for WMD

Suspicious Iraqi Drums Preliminary Testing Suggests Chemical Agents; More Testing Needed

2 trailers deemed biological arms labs

***Table 2: Characteristics of Chemical Warfare Agents: Commercial Uses of Chemicals or Precursor Chemicals

***CENTAF IRAQ'S CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS PROGRAM

53 posted on 06/04/2003 11:00:01 AM PDT by HatSteel
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To: Grampa Dave
It would be like the cops looking for amphetamines and ignoring the discovery of a production lab with all the precursor chemicals --- just because at that point in time there weren't any fully prepared amphetamines on site!

Close, but not quite; recent *binary* chemical agents are quite usable in their unmixed form and require no additional mixing or preparation for field troops to use. They're just capable of depot-level storage in a semi-ready seperated state, unlike the meth lab, in which it's intended to continue on to the next stage of production, since partially processed materials decline in purity as they draw nitrogen and moisture [hygroscopicity] once exposed to the air. -archy-/-

54 posted on 06/04/2003 11:06:03 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: MizSterious; Grampa Dave; sharktrager; backhoe
Archy, meant to ping you to #44, since I mentioned one of your posts from another thread!

No problem; glad you remenbered. But note *this one* as well.

-archy-/-

55 posted on 06/04/2003 11:09:54 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Skywalk
Because yeah, Iraqi military bases really need huge drums of pesticide, just in case. You know, attack by 50 foot locusts and such.

It's the giant sand fleas that are the real pests. And the oversized mosquitoes, the largest of which sometimes attempt to mate with Iraqi military helicopters.



56 posted on 06/04/2003 11:17:07 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: HatSteel
Bump.
57 posted on 06/04/2003 11:36:34 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: HatSteel; MizSterious; backhoe; *war_list; W.O.T.; seamole; Lion's Cub; Libertarianize the GOP; ...
Be sure and scan thru this:

When the Dungeon Doors Swing Open.......

58 posted on 06/04/2003 12:07:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: HatSteel
Hmmmm? ... Does this mean that some of the drums of single chemicals (pesticides ..?) were or could be some of the stuff they would use to mix with something else to make the WMD's ...??
59 posted on 06/04/2003 5:32:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt
Seems like that to some of us!
60 posted on 06/04/2003 6:52:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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