What most Jews don't want to verbalize is that they know, deep down, this is never going to stop’

Jewish World Review ^ | June 4, 2003 | Joel Mowbray

[SJackson]

Continued....

In the United States, parents' greatest fear for their children is a senseless car accident. Here it is senseless and savagely brutal mass murder. One Israeli father told me told me that he gave his 5-year-old son a cell phone as a way to soothe his nerves. "Sometimes, if my son hasn't called after he should have arrived at school, I call him up, just to hear his voice."

Skepticism is the norm on the streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Almost no one really believes peace is imminent. They've been teased with the promise of a truly normal life too many times before. Israelis are, if anything, less amenable to compromise after having been willing to give up so much in the past. Younger Israelis are slightly more sanguine, but it seems superficial, dissipating if the conversation progresses beyond casual chatting. When asked if Bush's visit would accomplish anything, a 23-year-old Israeli woman who works at a beachfront hotel answered, "I hope so." After a few minutes, though, she expressed the same sentiment as many others: "Can peace really come? I doubt it."

[Arpege92]

As a Christian, I sympathize with these people but I also am very frustrated with the Jews here in the United States. Most Jews are democrats and democratic politicians are for the most part, pro-palestinian supporters.

Why is that?

[SJackson]

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[Maria S]

I, too, would like someone to explain why American Jews vote Democrat (or at least seem to most of the time). And why they seem to be anti-gun.

As a Christian, I don't think this Middle East conflict will be resolved nor will there be peace until the Lord has decided enough is enough.

[FreedomPoster]

Lack of knowledge of Israeli history, and that of their Arab neighbors. Lack of knowledge of Arab/Islamic "culture".

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Most Jews are democrats and democratic politicians are for the most part, pro-palestinian supporters.

Why is that?

Part of the answer: http://www.arutzsheva.com/article.php3?id=1760

[Rodney King]

I agree that it is not going to stop because the arabs don't actually want peace. It's for this reason that I in fact support the creation of a Palestinian state. In my opinion (and I don't claim to be an expert), by allowing the creation of a Palestinian state the acts of terror of the "oppressed" against the "oppressor" (not my terms, but many people see it that way) would then become acts of war. I think that would dramatically sway world opinion towards the Israelis, and the attacks of the Palestinian State against the Israeli State would then provide a better framework for Israel to take care of the problem (via war against an invader) then the current situation (via police action against a people who don't have self-government)

[Clive]

"Israelis with whom I spoke in both Jerusalem and Tel Aviv the past few days realize that they are wanted dead by a massive portion of the world - almost all of which surrounds their tiny country."

[liberallarry]

History.

Penniless Jewish immigrants who came to this country during the late 1800's and early 1900's found the Democratic party best represented their interests.

That remained true right through the '60s - despite such things as the rampant anti-Semitism which characterized many in Roosevelt's cabinet, for example.

The anti-Semitsm of the Left is a new phenomenon in America - an outgrowth of political correctness - which has completely confused most Jews. They don't know how to respond, where to turn.

[Arpege92]

In the mean time, Jews here in the United States are doing more harm than good by not voicing their concerns for the Jews in Israel and not to mention the Jews in Europe.

[Arpege92]

American Jews don't know how to respond, where to turn? If there is any particular group of people on this planet who should be more aware of anti-Semitism....it is the Jews.

The Jews in Europe are the opposite....they are aware but they don't know where to turn for help.

[Redleg Duke]

"Why is that?"

That, my friend, is the $64 question! That nature was what got them to be good sheep, pack their one suitcase, and walk to the train station, and get into the boxcar. All during that time, they convinced themselves that it was all a misunderstanding that would be corrected.

And I have heard these liberal Jews bad-mouth the Sabras for being neanderthals and embarassments to the Jewish Culture.

Have you ever heard the saying, "A Conservative is a Liberal who got mugged last night!"? The problem is that too many of these liberal Jews, when they do get mugged, a la Nazi Germany or Arab, don't survive to get mad!

[Arpege92]

They don't survive to get mad! This is exactly the kind of attitude that puts their very existance in danger. They don't see it but Christians and muslims do. Muslims want them dead and no matter how hard Christians scream this threat, they don't listen.

[liberallarry]

I've found my own answers.

Realpolitic. I've joined Machiavelli in his cycnical view of human nature.

Most of the people I know - liberal or conservative, Jew or Christian - cannot travel this road.

[dennisw]

All this Jihading against Jews, Hindus, Americans, Christians in Africa and others will stop. It'll stop when Islam is humbled by Mecca/Medina/Qom being oblitertated. Will it come to that? I give it better than 50% chance.

[stuartcr]

I believe that is one of the many reasons it will never stop, that, and human nature.

[Arpege92]

It sure would be nice to see the muslims on the recieving end for once....and it would be even better if it were the Jews who does the giving.

[votelife]

I am frustrated with American Jews also. I think for the majority their religion/pride in Israel is not very strong. It is something that they were brought up with...For many Jews, liberalism seems to be their religion.

[Arpege92]

That is sad.

[7 x 77]

Is it true that Israel will become Muslim in the next generation or two because the Muslims have so many more children, and they will have the votes?