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RISE UP, REPUBLICANS
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 3, 2003 | Michael Freund

Posted on 06/03/2003 10:53:51 AM PDT by yonif

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1 posted on 06/03/2003 10:53:51 AM PDT by yonif
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2 posted on 06/03/2003 10:59:02 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Yeah, vote for Lieberstraum or Ketchup or Cutespinich. Israel will be much better off.
3 posted on 06/03/2003 11:00:58 AM PDT by zarf (Republicans for Sharpton 2004)
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To: yonif
I think we should butt-out of the Israel vs. Palatinian conflict.

Tell our friends in Iarael that they are on their own and what ever they need to do to "solve their problems" is OK with us.

They'd take care of everything.
4 posted on 06/03/2003 11:02:05 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: zarf
Yeah, vote for Lieberstraum or Ketchup or Cutespinich. Israel will be much better off.

A lot of people will just stay home. As much as I despise the Democrats, Bill Clinton never pushed for a Palestinian State as an interim step. Bush is dancing to the Saudi tune and this will hurt him.

5 posted on 06/03/2003 11:07:42 AM PDT by LarryM
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To: zarf
Yeah, vote for Lieberstraum or Ketchup or Cutespinich. Israel will be much better off.

What about voting a blank?

6 posted on 06/03/2003 11:08:13 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
The Republicans in California are too busy cannibalizing each other - too busy to get involved in anything meaningful - but thanks for trying.
7 posted on 06/03/2003 11:09:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: yonif; zarf
>>> Yeah, vote for Lieberstraum or Ketchup or Cutespinich. Israel will be much better off. <<<

No other candidate is running further and faster away from anything Israel than LIEberman.

I can't help but to believe that most of the "hysteria" is an excuse to Bash Bush. It's so much easier and conveniently democrat, to blame Bush, instead looking within: Israeli voters had the opportunity to elect Netanyahu!
8 posted on 06/03/2003 11:10:47 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: yonif
Once several years ago, I half jokingly told a friend that Israel should create a Palestinian state and then, the next time a suicide bomber went off, declare war on it and wipe it out.

I think this is going to be an excuse for Israel and the US to go after the Palestinian terrorists.

9 posted on 06/03/2003 11:16:01 AM PDT by ProudGOP (I've told you a million times not to exagerate)
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Ok, I am going to open myself up to be blasted, but here is the question I always have:

The Israelis don't want the Palestinians to be there, and the Palestinians don't want the Israelis to be there, right? So with the exception to completely wiping one of them off the map (I know, I know, the Palis want Israel gone, but the Israelis have a better chance at actually doing away with the Palis) what other solution is there besides a 2 state one?

I hear talk of don't give in to the terrorism (which I do think they are, after so many years of it, they are getting their own state proposed), but what about the Palestinians? Where are they going to go? ANd I am only asking because I really want to know. They came from where? Lebanon? Syria? Why is there no demand for those countries to let them in?

Does anyone have any ideas besides bashing one side or the other?

10 posted on 06/03/2003 11:16:35 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
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To: yonif
Bush has been a good, strong prez unlike his predecessor. However, I disagree with him on this road map idea strenuously, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go and vote RAT in 2004. I'm also upset with my state repubs for working with the RATS to gouge us a with $.05 hike in the gas tax and giving illegal aliens resident tuition at state universities. Again, that doesn't mean I'm going to vote RAT in 2004. Frankly, I don't know what to do other than "Letters to the Editor" at the local newspaper.
11 posted on 06/03/2003 11:20:13 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: yonif
This roadmap is literally going to blow up in W's face. It is inevitable and the people around POTUS must know it. I cannot but think that a regional conflict is planned for. Besides, it makes no sense to defeat Iraq and announce our withdrawal from Saudia Arabia, only to leave Iran and Hizbollah untouched. Not by this SecDef, and not by this CiC.

I think the roadmap dance is simply to get everybody's juices flowing. The momentum toward a settlement will bring out the irreconcilables on all sides. The kindling is gathering - who will provide the spark.
12 posted on 06/03/2003 11:21:17 AM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: eyespysomething
The Israelis don't want the Palestinians to be there, and the Palestinians don't want the Israelis to be there, right? So with the exception to completely wiping one of them off the map (I know, I know, the Palis want Israel gone, but the Israelis have a better chance at actually doing away with the Palis) what other solution is there besides a 2 state one?

The Arabs aren't interested in a two-state solution, they are interested in a one-state solution without Israel. When an enemy is running a terrorist war against you and trying to destroy you, how can anyone talk about concessions to terrorists. What would be the reaction of Americans if Bush gave in to Bin Laden?

13 posted on 06/03/2003 11:21:28 AM PDT by LarryM
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To: yonif
Trouble is, American Jews hardly have any children these days, while Moslems immigrants, who usually vote Democrat, tend to have lots of children.
14 posted on 06/03/2003 11:23:25 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: onyx
Israeli voters had the opportunity to elect Netanyahu!

What year are you referring to?

15 posted on 06/03/2003 11:23:59 AM PDT by yonif
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To: ProudGOP
I think this is going to be an excuse for Israel and the US to go after the Palestinian terrorists.

I don't buy it. Especially after for one, we are now training terrorists to fight terrorism (CIA is in the territories training a PA "counter-terrorist" force and giving them equipment, etc.)

16 posted on 06/03/2003 11:25:13 AM PDT by yonif
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To: LarryM
What if the Palestinian people do want a 2-state solution? What if, at this point, they just want the killing to stop? Didn't they have a protest last week against the PLO making Pali kids into "martyrs"?

I understand your point, trust me I am no Palistinian apologist, I only have questions. And your post doesn't answer any. Unless your solution is to completely wipe out a group of people. And I for one have issues with that.
17 posted on 06/03/2003 11:26:06 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
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To: yonif
Horsesh!t.

Has Dimocratic coddling of Arabfat ever caused a Jew to turn away from the Dimocratic Party? Even one?

The threat that a handful of Jews might abandon the GOP over this is silly.
18 posted on 06/03/2003 11:26:06 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: yonif
This year, I think.
19 posted on 06/03/2003 11:26:11 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: ProudGOP
declare war on it and wipe it out.

1. You think the US will allow Israel to do so, and risk its reputation hurt in Europe and the Arab world?

2. By then the PLO state would have signed defence agreements with many Arab terrorist countries like Libya, Syria, and Iran

3. Furthermore, when Israel declares war, the PLO will invite UN troops to quell Israeli "agression"

20 posted on 06/03/2003 11:27:32 AM PDT by yonif
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