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ZOA TO ASHCROFT: INDICT & EXTRADITE ARAB KILLER OF U.S. CITIZEN WHOM SHARON IS RELEASING
IMRA ^ | 6-3-03

Posted on 06/03/2003 5:44:34 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 06/03/2003 5:44:34 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
2 posted on 06/03/2003 5:45:32 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
As long as the ZOA is seeking extrdition of killers of Americans, do you think they could ask that the murderer Samuel Sheinbaum be fit into Ahmad El-Sukar's suitcase for the trip to the States?

Besides being a classy demonstration of intellectual and moral consistency, it would be a two-fer for American justice.
3 posted on 06/03/2003 5:59:55 AM PDT by mr.pink
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Fine. While we're at it we should indict and prosecute the driver of the Israeli army bulldozer who killed the American girl. Of course, we all know that Israel does not allow extradition of Jews.
4 posted on 06/03/2003 6:08:49 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: SJackson
More than 100 American citizens have been murdered by Palestinian Arab terrorists since the 1960s, 39 of them since the signing of the Oslo accords in 1993. Twenty-seven of those 39 were killed since the Palestinian Authority launched the current wave of violence in September 2000

I don't know where these numbers came from but most, probably all, were Israelis with joint citizenship and a primary loyalty to Israel. They followed their loyalties to make aliyah. It is a tragedy that they died (as it is for the several times that number of Palestinians killed by Israelis). However, talking about "murdered Americans" is a cheap shot at best.

5 posted on 06/03/2003 6:20:14 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: mr.pink
Besides being a classy demonstration of intellectual and moral consistency, it would be a two-fer for American justice.

The U.S. has more legitimate case in the incident you mentioned (Sheinbein is his name, I think) than in the case of the Palestinian terrorists who are being released. In the case of the Palestinian terrorists, they committed crimes against U.S. citizens in a foreign jurisdiction -- in the Sheinbein case, the crime was committed by a U.S. citizen (I believe) against another U.S. citizen, here in the United States. He subsequently fled the country to avoid standing trial in Maryland for his crime.

6 posted on 06/03/2003 6:20:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Seti 1
Fine. While we're at it we should indict and prosecute the driver of the Israeli army bulldozer who killed the American girl. Of course, we all know that Israel does not allow extradition of Jews.

She wasn't run over by a bulldozer, you are mistaken.

http://www.btnhboard.com/~scrub/corrie.htm



Besides, looks to me like Rachel Corrie hated the US - teaching Palestinian children to hate the US and burn the US flag isn't exactly good civics.

Are you a DU troll?
7 posted on 06/03/2003 6:25:55 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: Alberta's Child
He fled to Israel because Israel will not extradite a Jew anywhere for any cause (or so I understand from the news accounts--I'm not a lawyer).
8 posted on 06/03/2003 6:26:04 AM PDT by Seti 1
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Since the US government allows dual citizenship with Israel, your weird conception of loyalty has nothing to do with their LEGAL status as US citizens.
9 posted on 06/03/2003 6:27:28 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: Alberta's Child
The U.S. has more legitimate case in the incident you mentioned (Sheinbein is his name, I think) than in the case of the Palestinian terrorists who are being released. In the case of the Palestinian terrorists, they committed crimes against U.S. citizens in a foreign jurisdiction -- in the Sheinbein case, the crime was committed by a U.S. citizen (I believe) against another U.S. citizen, here in the United States. He subsequently fled the country to avoid standing trial in Maryland for his crime.

I'm not familiar with the Sheinbaum case, but as for the Paliterrorists, the US has traditionally exercised the right to try killers of US citizens overseas under US law.

Send the bastard to Guantanamo.
10 posted on 06/03/2003 6:29:44 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: adam_az
Please learn to post a link. I hunt-and-pecked your link and was rewarded with a load of garbage.

What's a DU troll? Something good?

11 posted on 06/03/2003 6:31:41 AM PDT by Seti 1
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In the pursuit of "fair and balanced" photo supplementation, do you have any photos of Sheinbaum taking a circular saw to his victim to contribute to the thread?
12 posted on 06/03/2003 6:34:14 AM PDT by mr.pink
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To: Seti 1
I don't know where these numbers came from but most, probably all, were Israelis with joint citizenship and a primary loyalty to Israel. They followed their loyalties to make aliyah

Do we have a law that says that those who have a dual citizenship is less of a citizen? What about those who are not dual citizens? You say "most", so even you admit that some of victims are exclusively American. What's up?

Followed their loyalties? Primary loyalty to Israel? But at the same time you say we should indict and prosecute the driver of the Israeli army bulldozer who killed the American girl

Well..

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You were talking about loyalties? Bringing her in into this while talking about loyatlies (I'll quote you once again) is a cheap shot at best

13 posted on 06/03/2003 6:34:35 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Seti 1
You only call it garbage because your mind is already made up, the facts be damned. It covers various media reports and their major discrepancies, and examines the evidence carefully to explode the myth she was "run over."

The fact that you hit-and-run dismissed anything you didn't agree with as "garbage" without refuting any specific points is evidence of your trollingness.

Go and hide back under your bridge and write some more "Free Eric Rudolph" letters or whatever foul task you were performing before you decided to leave your excrement on this thread.
14 posted on 06/03/2003 6:36:45 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: yonif
ping
15 posted on 06/03/2003 6:37:47 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: adam_az
Since the US government allows dual citizenship with Israel

Yes, it has in recent years. In the past it did not, and a HUGE mistake was made when they changed.

The LEGAL status of these people was joint citizens. Their loyalties were to Israel (that's why they were there). Israel is an occupying power (I quote its leader, the famous war criminal). Bad things happen to occupying powers.

16 posted on 06/03/2003 6:41:41 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: adam_az
Thanks for the ping.
17 posted on 06/03/2003 6:43:08 AM PDT by yonif
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To: Seti 1
Fine. While we're at it we should indict and prosecute the driver of the Israeli army bulldozer who killed the American girl. Of course, we all know that Israel does not allow extradition of Jews.

It was an accident. You have fallen to commie-driven media reports which painted it as deliberate. Israel takes great care in protecting civilian life. Also, you may also note, Israel has characterized the International Solidarity Movement as a terrorist aider.

18 posted on 06/03/2003 6:44:16 AM PDT by yonif
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...you decided to leave your excrement on this thread.

My,my, what a temper. Take a pill.

19 posted on 06/03/2003 6:44:55 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Seti 1
I don't know where these numbers came from but most, probably all, were Israelis with joint citizenship and a primary loyalty to Israel. They followed their loyalties to make aliyah

You don't know what you are talking about. The US government recognizes dual citizenship. Furthermore, do you say the same about an Israeli who became American? Is he less of an American as well? Also, most of the "Palestinians" which have been killed by Israeli troops have been terrorists, and the figures of 1000+ "Palestinians" killed the media spreads does not show which of those 1000 were killed while planting bombs, blew themselves up, taking arms against Israeli troops, and aiding terrorists in the act. After removing all those figures you will see a drastic change.

20 posted on 06/03/2003 6:46:48 AM PDT by yonif
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