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The Legal System is now our enemy
Townhall ^ | 06/03/03 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/03/2003 4:30:14 AM PDT by rooster1

I was raised to believe that law is the glory of decent society; that the rule of law is the sine qua non of civilization; that international law is the greatest protector of human rights; that lawyers should be coupled with doctors as an elite profession to which a young person can aspire; that making laws is the great work of legislatures; that law schools are among the noble places of learning in society; that the title "judge" was perhaps the highest appellation in society; and that the jury system is an essential component of a just society.

Most of the preceding has become nonsense.

I have come to fear almost everything having to do with law. Though there are many fine people in the legal profession, and though law is necessary to protect society from descending into chaos, I now fear the legal profession more than I do Islamic terror. I am far from alone. I believe that more Americans rightly fear being ruined by the American legal system more than being killed by a terrorist.

Tens of millions of innocent Americans, and untold numbers of innocent institutions -- from schools to businesses -- stand a good chance of having their money legally stolen through litigation or even the mere threat of it.

Innumerable American children are terribly harmed by family lawyers who egg on their clients to destroy the other parent.

Parents fear allowing visiting children to play on their property -- in their pools or on their trampolines, for example -- lest they be sued in case of injury.

Airlines won't give passengers aspirin for fear of lawsuits.

Physicians prescribe unnecessary procedures, raising the national medical bill astronomically, for fear of being sued.

American hotel guests can no longer breathe fresh air because hotels are no longer built with windows that open lest they be sued if a hotel guest falls out of one.

Men and women fear speaking normally at work, lest they be sued.

The deprivation of freedoms in America because of laws and litigation has made this country less free than at any time in its history.

Law in America and internationally is no longer on the side of the decent. It is a weapon in the hands of the indecent.

Everything related to law has been corrupted.

Law schools . Most people leave law school morally worse than when they entered. When they enter law school, most students think in terms of right or wrong. In law school they are taught to reject such thinking and to think only in terms of legal and illegal. This transformation of morals into legal categories, reinforced most especially in trial law, and particularly among criminal defense lawyers, explains the proliferation of amoral lawyers and the destructive role many trial lawyers play in our society.

Lawyers . The best humor is almost always the truest humor. The funniest jokes I ever heard were those told by Soviet dissidents; the funniest today are about lawyers. Both types of jokes are so humorous because they come from the same place -- bitterness at one's helplessness against an overwhelming and oppressive power -- the communist system in the Soviet Union, the legal system in America.

International law . Had America followed the proponents of international law, the people of Iraq would still be tortured and murdered by Saddam Hussein's regime. The frenzied screams of the international law community against American liberation of Iraq were the screams of people who hate American power and values far more than they hate tyrannies. International law and international treaties (all broken by the very regimes that we need to be protected against) are now the weapon of choice against American moral and military power.

Law . Law is a man-made series of rules. That is all it is. In and of itself, law is entirely amoral. There are moral laws and immoral laws. Both decent and vicious governments make laws. The Holocaust began legally. Nazis and communists had judges and lawyers who respected their societies' laws. In our country, slavery was entirely legal, as was the racial segregation that followed it. The notion that obedience to a society's laws is always moral is itself immoral.

Judges . Too many judges are unfit for their position. How else can one explain the New York State Supreme Court ruling that women can bare their breasts in public because men can? How to explain the judges who liberate criminals only to have those criminals murder and rape again? Or the many judges who regard their primary role as imposing their values on society? This has led to an undermining of the democratic process beyond the wildest hopes of any homegrown fascist or communist.

Juries . Juries are now merely weapons in the hands of amoral attorneys. The attorney's purpose is to win, not to find justice, let alone truth, and the jury is selected only for that purpose. The Florida lawyer who brought the new legal terror weapon of "class action suit" against tobacco companies rejected over 800 potential jurors before he could find 6 people who do not believe that anyone who smokes has freely chosen to do so.

And now a trial lawyer is seeking the Democratic Party's nomination for president. He ought to win it. Trial lawyers are, after all, the largest contributors to him and to his party. And if that doesn't frighten enough Americans, we will cease being a free country.

If America is destroyed, it will be done legally.


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1 posted on 06/03/2003 4:30:14 AM PDT by rooster1
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To: rooster1
Tens of millions of innocent Americans, and untold numbers of innocent institutions -- from schools to businesses -- stand a good chance of having their money legally stolen through litigation or even the mere threat of it.

Hyperbole alert!

2 posted on 06/03/2003 4:37:16 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rooster1
Unfortunately, the above is absolutely true. One of the most frightening things that I have recently read was a lawyer's admonition to people studying the law for a concealed weapon permit.

He said (and he is a good, well intentioned, truthful man), that just because you read a law, and even apply dictionary definitions to it, don't assume that you know what it means.

Think about that. It destroys the whole historical purpose of written law, developed over all of history. If you cannot understand what a law means by reading it, what is the point of having law at all? The entire purpose of written law is so that you can know beforehand what is forbidden, and what is required.

3 posted on 06/03/2003 4:43:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: rooster1
You know, I like a good lawyer joke as much as the next guy, but you have to put some of the blame on JURIES!

Why does a jury find McDonald's responsible for a driver spilling coffee?

Why does a jury find a hair-dryer manufacturer liable for some dim bulb dropping a hair dryer (they didn't always have warning labels) in a bathtub full of water?

I didn't know about the aspirin / airline thing, but I'll wager some lawyer convinced a jury that the flight attendant was practicing medicine without a license AND THE JURY BOUGHT IT!

The lawyers would stop selling ridiculous positions if the people would stop buying them.

4 posted on 06/03/2003 4:44:22 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
How else can one explain the New York State Supreme Court ruling that women can bare their breasts in public because men can?

Uh, this is a bad thing? HeHe

5 posted on 06/03/2003 4:45:30 AM PDT by SpartacusII
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To: rooster1
"Law is a man-made series of rules. That is all it is. In and of itself, law is entirely amoral."

One more proof that everything rests on virtue.
6 posted on 06/03/2003 4:46:31 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: rooster1
Check this out. Pure corruption in the judiciary!

On Wednesday, June 4th, 2003, Linda Kennedy will be confronting the Virginia Supreme Court regarding their ignoring due process rights of the people, even to the extent of the Supreme Court permitting the Virginia State Bar to perjure itself, and then allowing the bar and the hand picked judges to re-write the transcripts in the Kennedy case, in order to justify the lynching. And yes, after all this, the Supreme Court refused to preserve the actual record in the lower court which was different than the altered transcripts, in spite of Kennedy having dug in the garbage cans of the culprits, pulling out the actual alterations. Two courtwatchers also taped the proceedings and guess what--the tapes don't match the transcripts as the written record is totally and completely different in some major areas of the trail record (what a surprise). As an example, all the perjury that Kennedy caught the head of the ethics department at the Virginia State Bar in has mysteriously disappeared. The FBI says they are aware of the problem with altered records but have done nothing to police this crime against the people. Kennedy often talks about "Plan B: What to do when the law and facts don't matter." Kennedy has been applying these principles and needs our help for these last steps. Kennedy has spoken for many, many people and has helped many without requesting anything in return. Kennedy now needs us to say thanks and to help her. If you cannot be present at this hearing (address given below), then you can do the following: Call the Virginia Supreme Court at (804) 786-2251, and then the Virginia Attorney General's office (who is defending the criminal activities of the state bar and judges) at 804 786-2071, and make it known that you are protesting that "The People's Lawyer"--Linda Kennedy, is being wrongly attacked and targeted for speaking against the system, and that it needs to stop now. Address of the Virginia Supreme Court: 100 North 9th Street Richmond, VA 23219 (804) 786-2251

7 posted on 06/03/2003 4:54:03 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: Izzy Dunne
Greed explains nost of the damage cases, they would like to hit the legal lottery themselves so they grant stupid awards.

The position judges are taking on informed juries in criminal actions is worse. Jury nullification has always been a right, the courts have interpeted it out of existence.


"Jurors should acquit even against the judges' instruction...if exercising their judgment with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong."
--Alexander Hamilton

"The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy."
--John Jay, first Chief Justice of
the U.S. Supreme Court

"It is not only his [the juror's] right, but his duty...to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court."
--John Adams, second U.S. President
8 posted on 06/03/2003 4:58:25 AM PDT by steve50
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To: rooster1

And now a trial lawyer is seeking the Democratic Party's nomination for president. He ought to win it. Trial lawyers are, after all, the largest contributors to him and to his party. And if that doesn't frighten enough Americans, we will cease being a free country.



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Senator John Edwards (D-NC)

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9 posted on 06/03/2003 5:02:32 AM PDT by defeat_the_dem_igods
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To: rooster1
I think Dennis has gone a bit off the deep end. A lawyer's a lawyer. They've been presidents before, they'll be presidents in the future. Dean hasn't got a chance. Don't worry about it. He's too short.
10 posted on 06/03/2003 5:12:14 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: rooster1
Do any of you really stay up long into the night worrying about how you will be NEXT?

The judicial system in this country is the best the world has ever known. It has problems, such as the use of class actions to extort money from large corporations, and a few oddball rulings get a lot of coverage. But day-to-day the workings of many dedicated judges and lawyers is outstanding. There is no profession in this country that is held to higher ethical standards. If you want perfection, try communism.(/sarcasm)

The bigger problem to me is the stupid law makers who are transforming the common law into a social welfare nightmare. (e.g. the Family and Medical Leave Act; the People With Disabilities Act; and the extension of anti-discrimination principles to the extreme). I can hardly wait until our lawmakers make it illegal for me to discriminate against homosexuals. It's almost here.

One lawyer's humble opinion.
11 posted on 06/03/2003 5:49:46 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: rooster1
"If America is destroyed, it will be done legally."

Everything Hitler did was "legal".

12 posted on 06/03/2003 5:51:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Vote Democrat! Vote for national, and personal, suicide! It's like being a suicide bomber!)
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To: rooster1; Howlin
Good post. Someone said that we keep writing new laws in an impossible and vain effort to replace God's laws - the 10 Commandments - with our own (if anyone knows the current # of laws in the US, please ping me).

Edwards is almost as slick as Slick, and perhaps even more divisive.

It's about power.

Making the Law Work for Ordinary People
Excerpts from Sen. Edward's speech to law students at Drake University, March 31, 2001.

13 posted on 06/03/2003 5:55:19 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Our men and women in uniform have won for us every hour that we live in freedom." - Pres. Bush)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Hyperbole alert!"

If somebody decides to sue you for something, even something ridiculous, you must pay to defend yourself, and your chances of recovering costs, even if you win the case, are slim.

Then there is confiscation of your property by government agents, environmentalist extremists, et al...

Being blown up by a terrorist is worse than being mugged by the legal system, of course, but the probability is much less. That's why more people fear the legal system. To be driven into poverty, to be burglarized, to be ripped off--all are devastating, especially when the thieves are representatives of the legal system and the government--whom we are supposed to depend on to protect us, and when the legal system is widely believed to be an agent of injustice and government agents are widely feared, something is badly wrong!

14 posted on 06/03/2003 6:06:08 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Vote Democrat! Vote for national, and personal, suicide! It's like being a suicide bomber!)
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To: ricpic
One more proof that everything rests on virtue.

....and ethics...something that the Law Schools don't seem to stress anymore.

15 posted on 06/03/2003 6:13:23 AM PDT by KDD
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To: Izzy Dunne
Tens of millions of innocent Americans, and untold numbers of innocent institutions -- from schools to businesses -- stand a good chance of having their money legally stolen through litigation or even the mere threat of it.

I've asked you a million times not to exaggerate.

16 posted on 06/03/2003 6:18:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Do any of you really stay up long into the night worrying about how you will be NEXT?

If you fear you may be headed for divorce and you are a father, the answer should be YES. When it comes to divorce and child custody, the American legal system is foul, corrupt and unconstitutional.

17 posted on 06/03/2003 6:18:48 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Plus de fromage, s'il vous plait...)
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Do any of you really stay up long into the night worrying about how you will be NEXT?

Many of us who own property and or a buisness worry enough about it to pay extremely high insurance rates. Shyster lawers abound. They are not the exception they are the rule

18 posted on 06/03/2003 6:20:09 AM PDT by KDD
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I wanted to bump that article, but it's LOCKED!!!!
19 posted on 06/03/2003 7:29:52 AM PDT by Howlin (Only 332 days to go!)
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To: rooster1
The Florida lawyer who brought the new legal terror weapon of "class action suit" against tobacco companies rejected over 800 potential jurors before he could find 6 people who do not believe that anyone who smokes has freely chosen to do so.

In many courts -- NYC's especially -- voir dire is a joke. Jurors should refuse to answer intrusive personal questions.

20 posted on 06/03/2003 8:07:10 AM PDT by aculeus
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