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To: Heartlander
I do not believe computers will develop consciousness but ?if? they did I would see them as a cross between Data from Star Trek (emotionless) and Rainman (good will calculations).

Argumentum ex fabulis a.k.a. "Argument From Fiction", which is a more subtle fallacy than the literal name. This is a particularly common and yet to my mind one of the most egregious types of fallacies.

Your belief above has been shaped almost entirely by fiction in the absence of valid priors. Though seductive, this is a dangerous type of reasoning that has often led to a great deal of very bad human behavior. In fact, given the limited amount of experience we have with highly intelligent beings, the only rational position is that a highly intelligent computer would be very similar to humans (but perhaps more even-tempered).

The most difficult part of reasoning is rationally justifying your assumptions and objectively analyzing what you think you know. Given the amount of effort required to do this, most people just skip that step.

935 posted on 06/15/2003 10:13:42 AM PDT by tortoise (Dance, little monkey! Dance!)
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To: tortoise; Heartlander
What you call argument from fiction others call the expression of intuition (i.e., thought experiment, parable, which Einsten intuited was more important than knowledge of fact and the motif in which Jesus often taught).

Suggest you think well of that, well using all the lobes of your brain.
937 posted on 06/15/2003 10:21:25 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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To: tortoise
ME:
I do not believe computers will develop consciousness but ?if? they did I would see them as a cross between Data from Star Trek (emotionless) and Rainman (good will calculations).
You:
Argumentum ex fabulis a.k.a. "Argument From Fiction", which is a more subtle fallacy than the literal name. This is a particularly common and yet to my mind one of the most egregious types of fallacies.
Your belief above has been shaped almost entirely by fiction in the absence of valid priors. Though seductive, this is a dangerous type of reasoning that has often led to a great deal of very bad human behavior. In fact, given the limited amount of experience we have with highly intelligent beings, the only rational position is that a highly intelligent computer would be very similar to humans (but perhaps more even-tempered).

The statement; “given the limited amount of experience we have with highly intelligent beings, the only rational position is that a highly intelligent computer would be very similar to humans (but perhaps more even-tempered)”, is an argument from what?

Alan Mathison Turing posed an argument from what?

If I presented a theory of bat to whale evolution, this would be an argument from what? (or would it even be an argument and why) Heck, I might even receive research money for this as I actually have a theory – although fictional.

We are both conscious and intelligent and if someone posed a theory stating otherwise, this would be an argument from… well fiction because we would have a fictitious state of mind.

BTW -
I don't go about tipping sacred cows without a good reason.
I hope you don’t mind if I use it…

967 posted on 06/16/2003 7:11:36 PM PDT by Heartlander
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