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It would be tolerable to say that consciousness/spirit is outside the scope of biology were it not for the fact that some of the scientists turn right back around and say that neither consciousness nor spirit can exist because they are not material.

Personally, I find that attempt at being clever rather humorous. But, sadly, many people trust scientists absolutely, pretty much the same way they trust medical doctors. But there are dangerous doctors just like there are scientists with ill motive.

A-G, you've hit my double concern right on the head here: the cultural effects of scientistic popularization of a bastardized evolutionary theory, and damage done to the integrity of science itself in the process.

Yet somehow, arguments based on such concerns get translated into "proof" that I am engaging in the defense of creationist doctrine. To me, that looks like a gross (and possibly willful) misdirection. I wonder why it seems to happen so often.

Thanks so much for your post, A-G! Hope you're enjoying your company this weekend! Hugs!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the encouragements! Indeed, I much enjoyed the company this weekend. Wouldn't you know though, I'm going to be out of pocket again Tuesday and Wednesday. Sigh... So much interesting debate to miss.

Yet somehow, arguments based on such concerns get translated into "proof" that I am engaging in the defense of creationist doctrine. To me, that looks like a gross (and possibly willful) misdirection. I wonder why it seems to happen so often.

Indeed, there are many such false presumptions on these threads. Intelligent design supporters are frequently not young earth creationists. And some are neither ID nor YEC, but are also not comfortable with evolution theory for speciation.