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Florida: 'Loud music' provokes 3 killings
Miami Herald ^ | June 2, 2003

Posted on 06/02/2003 8:59:28 AM PDT by george wythe

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To: Joe Hadenuf
I will never live in an apartment, since I can hear people walking upstairs or using the bathroom next door; I'm cursed with very good hearing.

I did the apartment thing while I was a young college lad, but I will never go back to living in such close quarters.

If I had limited funds, I would rent a room attached to a family house or rent a trailer in the boondocks

81 posted on 06/02/2003 10:37:29 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happened just as you outlined. All the more reason to call the cops, cover your ears for a little while, and try to relax. Throwing away your life over some loud revelers is the height of stupidity. But if the lives of my loved ones (or my own) were threatened, I'd unhesitatingly get out my 12 gauge.

It also depends on the crowd one's dealing with. In the neighborhood I grew up in, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to confront the partygoers, and would feel completely safe in doing so. That neighborhood in Miami is another story altogether.

82 posted on 06/02/2003 10:39:17 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: dark_lord; admin
Maybe they would respond. Maybe not.

It's worth a try. Better than murdering three of your neighbors in any case.

As for the rest of your post (#32), I assume it's sarcasm, but don't find it humorous.

If you check the posting guidelines, you can see that it states "...No racism or violence in posts".

83 posted on 06/02/2003 10:39:41 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: savedbygrace
You probably mean John Wesley Hardin, right?

That's the one .... my mistake.

84 posted on 06/02/2003 10:39:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: vrwc1
Oh butch up & deal with it .
85 posted on 06/02/2003 10:47:58 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: vrwc1
Look what I have done is irrevelant to this story. I am just telling you that long ago, I lived in an area of low life that liked to get drunk and blast music at all hours.

I got tired of calling the cops and was close to hurting the low life. What I did was move to a more expensive area where people had more brains and respect for each other.

Some people are also missing the point, as a lot of people think they are required to give their names and addresses to law enforcement when they make a complaint, as they always ask for personal information like name and address. This could have been one of those people that was afraid of retribution or retaliation if he called the police.

And besides, people who get the cops called on them generally always know who did it, and they are generally right. Like at this party, if people from apartments on both sides of the party apartment were in attendance, the likely person to call the cops would be the one that lived directly above the party apartment. It's generally not hard to figure out who the cop callers are.

86 posted on 06/02/2003 10:50:37 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: darkwing104
"Now, I'am waiting for the race card to be played."

It would probably be justified here after 10 posts and not one person condemning the asshole who murdered multiple people.

Yea, I would be pissed off too - but MURDER? And this prick just adds more fuel to the gun grabbers fire.

Yep, I have little doubt that the FRacists around here would have a different spin if the party goers were white.

There's some mexicans up the street from me who play loud mexican music sometimes and it pisses me off, but I'm not going to MURDER them. Sheesh.
87 posted on 06/02/2003 10:51:50 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: dennisw
"Hopefully lovers of loud stupid music will chill for a while in South Florida. Knowing nothing much about this case I sympathize with the gunner."

Of course you do. Yea, he only killed hispanics, right? Who cares about them... (/sarcasm)
88 posted on 06/02/2003 10:54:30 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: FITZ
But no complaints for multiple murderers? What a great "conservative" crowd around here.
89 posted on 06/02/2003 10:55:23 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: vrwc1
Do me a favor. Don't post to me anymore. Please. I don't like people who threaten to have someone banned like you did with the other poster, or call the AM into a thread. That don't sit well with me. So in the future, don't post to me.

Thanks.

90 posted on 06/02/2003 10:55:46 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: vrwc1
"The shooter has no excuse - he should have simply called the cops."

Exactly. How hard is that?
91 posted on 06/02/2003 10:56:41 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: Z10N157
It would probably be justified here after 10 posts and not one person condemning the asshole who murdered multiple people.

I'll be the first to tell you that the shooter was a dumb*$$ and should be tried for murder, pure and simple. Now I'am looking for the Liberal Spin that it was a hate crime somehow.

92 posted on 06/02/2003 10:57:02 AM PDT by darkwing104
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To: LADY J
"How do you trespass in a shopping center that's open to the public?"

My guess is he was probably being belligerant and asked to leave. Obviously this guy was haveing some sort of issues in his life - maybye for being a 40 year old loser living in some gheto appartments - and was takeing out his anger on others.
93 posted on 06/02/2003 11:00:47 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: MineralMan
I wonder if the death penalty advocates here would advocate the death penalty for this "poor" tenant?

OTOH, I wonder how this story would have been played if the shooter been a fellow latino. Page 17B, lower inside left column, under "Local Crime"?

94 posted on 06/02/2003 11:02:56 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: dennisw
"Knowing nothing much about this case I sympathize with the gunner."

I'd guess that's the only way a decent person could 'sympathize with the gunner'.

'Knowing nothing', I mean.
95 posted on 06/02/2003 11:03:47 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: MineralMan
"there are folks here who don't see a problem with wasting people for playing loud music. It's amazing."

It's SICK.
96 posted on 06/02/2003 11:04:48 AM PDT by Z10N157
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To: HELLRAISER II
bump that
97 posted on 06/02/2003 11:05:09 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happened just as you outlined. All the more reason to call the cops, cover your ears for a little while, and try to relax.

And I agree with everything you said, however, there are a lot of people out there that belive the are required to give their name to file or make a complaint. And again, most people that get the cops called on them, generally have a good idea who the ones doing it are.

This guy just went sideways, possibly after he was threatend or confronted at the door by some macho drunk. He may as well shot himself too.

98 posted on 06/02/2003 11:08:21 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Threatened threatened.....Sheesh......
99 posted on 06/02/2003 11:10:28 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Mr. Mojo
Way too repetitive for my taste.

All dance music is.

100 posted on 06/02/2003 11:11:22 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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