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This document is incomplete. There are obviously a lot of issues and details I have left out, not because I don't believe they are important, but because I was trying to keep this down to a reasonable length. Any and all suggestions are welcome, even from people like my pal BChan and his fretard friends, who think they're the only people in the world. To them, I say, laugh while you can, boys, your fifteen minutes are almost up.

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Okay gang. Let him know what you think.

1 posted on 06/01/2003 6:32:06 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
Rand/Hitler? What possible basis is there for linking Ayn Rand to Hitler?
2 posted on 06/01/2003 6:35:33 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: B-Chan
Pox Liberalis...
3 posted on 06/01/2003 6:38:38 PM PDT by boris
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To: B-Chan
I have said this a hundred times; in a pinch this article can be printed up and used as toilet paper...
4 posted on 06/01/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: B-Chan
he begins by saying that no government which forces it's ideology on all people can be sustained, then proceeds to explain all the things that MUST (his words) be present in a universal government.

oh, the hypocrisy.
8 posted on 06/01/2003 6:48:34 PM PDT by bigghurtt
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The Definition of Liberalism: "Their version of "us" is very limited, and their version of "them" encompasses everyone not in that small group. They fear a [The United States and the Conservative mindset] because it will deny them what they want the most: to control the dwindling resources of the world and to dictate their terms to everyone else. They despise such things as rights and freedoms, these are their enemies. They are willing to die for their cause, and they are also willing to kill for it. They see themselves as our superiors, as divine overseers who deserve nothing less than the role of world leadership, and they are willing to do anything at all to make that vision a reality."

How is it that this drip has it twisted?

9 posted on 06/01/2003 6:50:22 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: B-Chan
The vision of the Pax Liberalis is a vision of a single global community under one government.

As such, it represents a direct threat to the Constitution of the United States.

Furthermore, anyone seriously advancing the idea of a global government should either be arrested for sedition (if a US citizen) or deported immediately.

If the treasonous bastards still want to attempt to implement their global tyranny, they should be aware of the fact that there are millions of Americans who literally spend every waking hour plotting their demise if they ever bring in foreign troops.

10 posted on 06/01/2003 6:51:06 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: B-Chan
The only way to do this is to re-establish the boundaries between the government and private interests. Repeal the SUN-PAC laws that legalized corporate-owned political action committees,

Corporate PAC's are illegal(at least in my state).

Change the party primary system so that it doesn't favor the candidate with the most money.

In a state rep race in my county, the candidate with the most money lost, and 2nd least amound won. How are you going to do that anyway?

Restructure the campaign finance laws so that good people aren't deterred from running for office because of the need to raise such vast sums of money,

Many don't run because it's a paycut from their current job. Besides, that ain't going to happen.

and so that our public officials can spend less time raising funds and more time doing their jobs as legislators.

How many reps have 90%+ voting attendance recores?

Roll back the de-regulation of the media so that people with a vision that doesn't conform to the corporate worldview have access to a means to communicate it.

I'm going to say this VERY clearly. Corporate doesn't mean Republican you stupid DMF's. Hollywood is corporate. There is as much diverse views among corporations as there is among people.

The Republican leadership thrives, not because their vision is better than ours, but because their wealth allows them to broadcast their message louder and to drown out anyone who stands against them.

Jon Corzine? Warren Buffet? Rockefellers? Ted Turner? Gerry Levin? Michael Eisner? C'mon. This is ridiculous. The GOP wins, since out there in REAL America, we see how RIDICULOUS your views are. We don't like gun grabbing, govt censors(like your PC universities), health Nazis, America haters, and the like forcing your crap down our throat and we're finally getting up and kicking your sorry asses to the curb.

Take away that advantage, force them to play on our playing field, the field of ideas, and they will lose every time

If it's equal up, bring it. You're not even in my league, son.

There is no second place in politics. Win first, do everything else afterwards.

About the only thing I agree with.

If they're really fascists, they'll kill us all, and the rest of the world will deal with them in time. If they're not, we can defeat them and treat them magnamimously, just to show them the real difference between "us" and "them." Either way, they'll eventually be tossed into the trash heap of history where they belong, alongside everyone else with delusions of power

I won't give up my freedoms. There are three boxes. The Soap Box, ballot box, and cartridge box. We also know the difference. That's why we kicked you out in 94, 98(Michigan), 2000(National), and 02. As for fascists, I see them. That's you. I don't want government in every aspect of my life.

A global government needs legitimacy, and it needs the military power to enforce the laws it creates. The UN as it stands is not prepared for this.

I did not, do not, and never will recognize any global government. Period.

It must be a government that represents the will of the majority but which respects the rights of the minority, that guarantees the freedom of speech, religion, and press.

Like your Fairness Doctrine on press, 9th circuit on religion, and your universities on freedom of speech? Where's the 2nd Amendment there? IF there is no 2nd Amendment, than your rights talk is just that. Talk.

The next most important duty for the UN is the formation of a global peacekeeping force, a single military. This can be drawn from all of the countries governed by the UN, and can be used both to enforce the laws of the UN and to prevent wars from breaking out

Bwahahahhahahahhahahaahahhahahaha.

The decisions of any legislature must be ratified on the battlefield

So you support war for this world govt?

No government can survive long if it is founded on deceit, nor can it survive if it isn't trusted

And larger governments have more deceit and more power. If I don't like the government of Michigan, I can move to Montana. I can't move from a world government.

1. The state shall grant...

The state doesn't grant me anything. Look up John Locke.

12 posted on 06/01/2003 6:54:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Hey Moose! Rocco! - Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?")
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.....From Marx/Engels on the left to Rand/Hitler on the right,.....

That's as far as I got.......
Comparing Ayn Rand to Hitler makes no sense at all

16 posted on 06/01/2003 7:00:14 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (http://www.ourgangnet.net)
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To: B-Chan; Andrewksu
Where to begin? I'll be overwhelmed by the need to take out the trash, etc. before I finish this, but I'll give it a shot while I have a little time.

To understand this man's grasp of the great political and philisophical issues of the day, you need look no further than his citation of Hitler as an example of the right run amok. Hitler was the leader of the National Democratic Socialist Workers Party, the Nazis. The operable words here are Socialist and Workers. They were right wing only in the sense that they were to the right of their rivals the true Socialists and the Marxists. Clueless.

Our hero proclaims to be fighting for the return of American freedoms, ideals, and values then proceeds to explain how, when he gains power, he will immediately round up all of his enemies (Republicans), surrender American soverignity to the UN, and form an extranational army answerable only to the ruling class (himself). Sounds like the Waffen SS to me.

He rails against the corruption of the CIA. Compared to what? The Teamsters? The NEA? The UN? The New York Times? And speaking of the New York Times, note that our freedom-loving scribe plans to restore the press to the natural order of things, where contrary views are suppressed and the press does the unquestioned bidding of the ruling elite - like the good old days when it was just ABC, NBC, CBS and the flagship newspapers of the left.

To be sure there are kooks and extremists on both the Left and Right. Right Wing nuts mostly live in the mountains somewhere with a pack of good dogs, years of grub and ammo stashed away, and an aversion to license plates and income taxes. They are a threat to no one, except maybe the ELF.

Left wing nuts are the core leadership and militant soldiers of the Democrat Party. They are a very real threat to everyone, including 90% of their fellow Democrats. We need to pay attention to men such as this, they are dangerous.
17 posted on 06/01/2003 7:02:27 PM PDT by centurion316
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We, the people of the planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union, establish global justice and tranquility, provide for the common defense,

Defense agaisnt whom? Space aliens. What a marroon.

18 posted on 06/01/2003 7:03:32 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Iraq info http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/919809/posts?q=1&&page=101#134)
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"They fear a Pax Liberalis because it will deny them what they want the most: to control the dwindling resources of the world and to dictate their terms to everyone else."

ARRRGGHHHH!!!!!!! The "..resources of the world..." are NOT "dwindling". They are, in fact, increasing virtually everywhere. This is an economic FACT, and was proven year ago with the bet between a famous economist (whose name escapes me at the moment), and Paul Ehrlich (author of the Malthusian tome "The Population Bomb").

The problem with the "...resources of the world..." is inequity of distribution--typically caused by authoritarion socialist governments (cf Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, and virtually everywhere else that there is extreme poverty).

In other words, liberals (socialists) and their Pox Liberalis are the CAUSE of the disease, not the cure.

19 posted on 06/01/2003 7:03:37 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: B-Chan
From Marx/Engels on the left to Rand/Hitler on the right,

Hitler is still on the left.

24 posted on 06/01/2003 7:15:40 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Any bets on whether this genious is a denizen of DUmmyland? Sure sounds like one of their standard scripts.
29 posted on 06/01/2003 7:24:38 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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There are six billion people in the world today, and everyone of them is a distinct individual with different needs, wants, and ambitions.

True socialists divide the people into classes. The vast majority would be in the worker class or worker/consumer class if consuming is in fact the work of today. There might be a middle class, but of course everything possible is being done even now to eliminate the inconvenient middle class. Then there is the elite class. The elite are the only ones who have the brains and education to know what is really going on, they rule, and only they have true human freedom. The worker/consumer class is kept happy and busy with consumer goods and meds and phony war. They aren't overly bright nor are they encouraged to get other than the standardized education. The elite are the most likely source of revolutionary ideas and fervor as they compete amongst themselves. The workers are not trusted even to make the cars nor grow the food for the elite: all phases of production are mechanized. Post-industrial age? Not hardly.

By the way, the phony war is being moved to Africa. The Middle East is just a temporary diversion. Africa is already as good as in the western camp right now. Eurasia and Eastasia have been skunked.

Our socialist system appears to be winning everything simply by being the superior form of socialism--unwitting socialism.

Ask any Liberal. That's pretty much the socialist plan.

31 posted on 06/01/2003 7:29:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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"From Marx/Engels on the left to Rand/Hitler on the right,..."

Rand/Hitler?? Rand was a proponent of individualism. Hitler was not. Simply put, there is no connection here.

32 posted on 06/01/2003 7:29:45 PM PDT by davisfh
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Despite killing almost 1 million souls, the various communist movements are dead or gasping for air. Stephane Courtois writes about the nature oc communism in the book, The Black Book of Communism; “The following rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates, gives some sense of the scale and gravity of these crimes:

· U.S.S.R. 20 million deaths,
· China 65 million deaths,
· Vietnam 1 million deaths,
· North Korea 2 million deaths,
· Cambodia 2 million deaths,
· Eastern Europe 1 million deaths,
· Latin America 150,000 deaths,
· Africa 1.7 million deaths,
· Afghanistan 1.5 million deaths,
· International Communists 10,000 deaths,

The total approaches 100 million people killed.” The scary thing is that at one point it wasn’t obvious to anyone that communism would be stopped before it achieved it's version of one world government.

The most strikingly disingenuous comment from the article is that most left wingers are opposed to violence. History says otherwise.
33 posted on 06/01/2003 7:30:45 PM PDT by reed_inthe_wind
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Ping! Commie turd alert.
34 posted on 06/01/2003 7:31:18 PM PDT by Madcelt (Tis better to starve free,than live a fat slave- Aesop( right philosopher this time!))
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From Marx/Engels on the left to Rand/Hitler

LOL, I got this far and knew that whatever follows is worthless.
It's nice to find out early, before too much time is wasted.

See you around,
LH

40 posted on 06/01/2003 8:06:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Oh my! The "enemies of freedom" who wrote the constitution and the bill of right's to limit the kind of federal involvement this wanker advocates are back "in command now"

I suppose someone dug them up?

PS: You can tell this guy is a certified know-nothing because his page is filled to the gills with every gaudy, tacky, ridiculous bell and whistle conceiveable.

It looks like Hawaian shirt and moves like gear oil at the south pole.

He's also desperate for attention, as he included half the dictionary in the page title in the hope fooling someone into giving him a hit.

43 posted on 06/01/2003 8:26:35 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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Who knows anything about Joe Vecchio.

I'm betting he is in his 20's and a recent graduate of a very liberal university. He writes like the Manchurian Candidate who has had "the truth" pounded into his head so well that he really can't think for himself.

Ayn Rand and Hitler is just the easiest example of his totally screwed up view of life and politics. Nazi = National Socialist German Worker's Party. I don't associate socialist movements with the right wing but the libs have been trying to make us believe this for 60 years. The Nazis were socialists and instituted a typical totalitarian socialist government. How do you possibly connect the dots between that approach to Government and the philosophy of a woman who's lifetime goal was the destruction of totalitarianism?

44 posted on 06/01/2003 8:31:24 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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