Pax Liberalis: One Liberal's Agenda for Global Government [FR mentioned]

Pax Liberalis ^ | 2003.05.31 | Joe Vecchio

[B-Chan]

Complete Text

Final Note

This document is incomplete. There are obviously a lot of issues and details I have left out, not because I don't believe they are important, but because I was trying to keep this down to a reasonable length. Any and all suggestions are welcome, even from people like my pal BChan and his fretard friends, who think they're the only people in the world. To them, I say, laugh while you can, boys, your fifteen minutes are almost up.

E-mail the author

Okay gang. Let him know what you think.

[vbmoneyspender]

Rand/Hitler? What possible basis is there for linking Ayn Rand to Hitler?

[boris]

Pox Liberalis...

[cardinal4]

I have said this a hundred times; in a pinch this article can be printed up and used as toilet paper...

[B-Chan]

You know, I wondered about that one myself. I mean, I'm no fan of Ayn Rand myself, but Hitler? You've got me. It makes no sense.

I suspect that Mr. Vecchio's knowledge of right-wing political philosophy is superficial at best. When it comes to wacked-out Germans, Rand has more in common with Max Stirner than with Adolf Hitler.

[fishbabe]

because all liberals know if you link hitler with the right by the time every figures it was liberals who had more in common with him ,it will be too late to save us...after all the germans had the u.s to save them from themselves but we have no one...when the liberals shut us down and make us the new nazi germany there will be no one to save us...which is why liberals fight so hard to keep the truth from the american people....

[CyberAnt]

That's what I was thinking! Hitler was a Socialist - he hated the Communists - only because they were competition to him. Hitler WAS THE BIGGEST LIBERAL !!!!!

[bigghurtt]

he begins by saying that no government which forces it's ideology on all people can be sustained, then proceeds to explain all the things that MUST (his words) be present in a universal government.

oh, the hypocrisy.

[VaBthang4]

The Definition of Liberalism: "Their version of "us" is very limited, and their version of "them" encompasses everyone not in that small group. They fear a [The United States and the Conservative mindset] because it will deny them what they want the most: to control the dwindling resources of the world and to dictate their terms to everyone else. They despise such things as rights and freedoms, these are their enemies. They are willing to die for their cause, and they are also willing to kill for it. They see themselves as our superiors, as divine overseers who deserve nothing less than the role of world leadership, and they are willing to do anything at all to make that vision a reality."

How is it that this drip has it twisted?

[Mulder]

The vision of the Pax Liberalis is a vision of a single global community under one government.

As such, it represents a direct threat to the Constitution of the United States.

Furthermore, anyone seriously advancing the idea of a global government should either be arrested for sedition (if a US citizen) or deported immediately.

If the treasonous bastards still want to attempt to implement their global tyranny, they should be aware of the fact that there are millions of Americans who literally spend every waking hour plotting their demise if they ever bring in foreign troops.

[B-Chan]

Mr. Vecchio once told me that everybody in the United States should have their incomes taxed at 70%.

My response: "If the federal government starts taking seven cents of every dollar I make, I'll be damned if I'm going to work!"

He didn't get my point. Mr. Vecchio is funny that way.

[Dan from Michigan]

The only way to do this is to re-establish the boundaries between the government and private interests. Repeal the SUN-PAC laws that legalized corporate-owned political action committees,

Corporate PAC's are illegal(at least in my state).

Change the party primary system so that it doesn't favor the candidate with the most money.

In a state rep race in my county, the candidate with the most money lost, and 2nd least amound won. How are you going to do that anyway?

Restructure the campaign finance laws so that good people aren't deterred from running for office because of the need to raise such vast sums of money,

Many don't run because it's a paycut from their current job. Besides, that ain't going to happen.

and so that our public officials can spend less time raising funds and more time doing their jobs as legislators.

How many reps have 90%+ voting attendance recores?

Roll back the de-regulation of the media so that people with a vision that doesn't conform to the corporate worldview have access to a means to communicate it.

I'm going to say this VERY clearly. Corporate doesn't mean Republican you stupid DMF's. Hollywood is corporate. There is as much diverse views among corporations as there is among people.

The Republican leadership thrives, not because their vision is better than ours, but because their wealth allows them to broadcast their message louder and to drown out anyone who stands against them.

Jon Corzine? Warren Buffet? Rockefellers? Ted Turner? Gerry Levin? Michael Eisner? C'mon. This is ridiculous. The GOP wins, since out there in REAL America, we see how RIDICULOUS your views are. We don't like gun grabbing, govt censors(like your PC universities), health Nazis, America haters, and the like forcing your crap down our throat and we're finally getting up and kicking your sorry asses to the curb.

Take away that advantage, force them to play on our playing field, the field of ideas, and they will lose every time

If it's equal up, bring it. You're not even in my league, son.

There is no second place in politics. Win first, do everything else afterwards.

About the only thing I agree with.

If they're really fascists, they'll kill us all, and the rest of the world will deal with them in time. If they're not, we can defeat them and treat them magnamimously, just to show them the real difference between "us" and "them." Either way, they'll eventually be tossed into the trash heap of history where they belong, alongside everyone else with delusions of power

I won't give up my freedoms. There are three boxes. The Soap Box, ballot box, and cartridge box. We also know the difference. That's why we kicked you out in 94, 98(Michigan), 2000(National), and 02. As for fascists, I see them. That's you. I don't want government in every aspect of my life.

A global government needs legitimacy, and it needs the military power to enforce the laws it creates. The UN as it stands is not prepared for this.

I did not, do not, and never will recognize any global government. Period.

It must be a government that represents the will of the majority but which respects the rights of the minority, that guarantees the freedom of speech, religion, and press.

Like your Fairness Doctrine on press, 9th circuit on religion, and your universities on freedom of speech? Where's the 2nd Amendment there? IF there is no 2nd Amendment, than your rights talk is just that. Talk.

The next most important duty for the UN is the formation of a global peacekeeping force, a single military. This can be drawn from all of the countries governed by the UN, and can be used both to enforce the laws of the UN and to prevent wars from breaking out

Bwahahahhahahahhahahaahahhahahaha.

The decisions of any legislature must be ratified on the battlefield

So you support war for this world govt?

No government can survive long if it is founded on deceit, nor can it survive if it isn't trusted

And larger governments have more deceit and more power. If I don't like the government of Michigan, I can move to Montana. I can't move from a world government.

1. The state shall grant...

The state doesn't grant me anything. Look up John Locke.

[Dan from Michigan]

I missed that. Rand is the opposite of a Hitler.

[Dan from Michigan]

If I'm taxes at 70%, I'll stay home and go on welfare.

[B-Chan]

Please note that the opinions expressed on the Pax Liberalis website are those of its author, not me.. I'm a monarchist.

[Fiddlstix]

.....From Marx/Engels on the left to Rand/Hitler on the right,.....

That's as far as I got.......
Comparing Ayn Rand to Hitler makes no sense at all

[centurion316]

Where to begin? I'll be overwhelmed by the need to take out the trash, etc. before I finish this, but I'll give it a shot while I have a little time.

To understand this man's grasp of the great political and philisophical issues of the day, you need look no further than his citation of Hitler as an example of the right run amok. Hitler was the leader of the National Democratic Socialist Workers Party, the Nazis. The operable words here are Socialist and Workers. They were right wing only in the sense that they were to the right of their rivals the true Socialists and the Marxists. Clueless.

Our hero proclaims to be fighting for the return of American freedoms, ideals, and values then proceeds to explain how, when he gains power, he will immediately round up all of his enemies (Republicans), surrender American soverignity to the UN, and form an extranational army answerable only to the ruling class (himself). Sounds like the Waffen SS to me.

He rails against the corruption of the CIA. Compared to what? The Teamsters? The NEA? The UN? The New York Times? And speaking of the New York Times, note that our freedom-loving scribe plans to restore the press to the natural order of things, where contrary views are suppressed and the press does the unquestioned bidding of the ruling elite - like the good old days when it was just ABC, NBC, CBS and the flagship newspapers of the left.

To be sure there are kooks and extremists on both the Left and Right. Right Wing nuts mostly live in the mountains somewhere with a pack of good dogs, years of grub and ammo stashed away, and an aversion to license plates and income taxes. They are a threat to no one, except maybe the ELF.

Left wing nuts are the core leadership and militant soldiers of the Democrat Party. They are a very real threat to everyone, including 90% of their fellow Democrats. We need to pay attention to men such as this, they are dangerous.

[NeoCaveman]

We, the people of the planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union, establish global justice and tranquility, provide for the common defense,

Defense agaisnt whom? Space aliens. What a marroon.

[Wonder Warthog]

"They fear a Pax Liberalis because it will deny them what they want the most: to control the dwindling resources of the world and to dictate their terms to everyone else."

ARRRGGHHHH!!!!!!! The "..resources of the world..." are NOT "dwindling". They are, in fact, increasing virtually everywhere. This is an economic FACT, and was proven year ago with the bet between a famous economist (whose name escapes me at the moment), and Paul Ehrlich (author of the Malthusian tome "The Population Bomb").

The problem with the "...resources of the world..." is inequity of distribution--typically caused by authoritarion socialist governments (cf Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, and virtually everywhere else that there is extreme poverty).

In other words, liberals (socialists) and their Pox Liberalis are the CAUSE of the disease, not the cure.

[B-Chan]

Me, too. Why work if the government takes all the money you make?