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To: Mamzelle
It was a neat shot at the beginning, but got tired of looking at closeups of muddy feet.

The bare feet have some sort of significance that I haven't figured out yet. If you'll remember, when the kid that sort of worships Neo was running to the huge cavern where Morpheus was about to give his speech, he hurriedly took off his shoes for some reason. I'm still puzzling over that one.

Yeah, I never saw it as an orgy either. I couldn't figure out why people were describing it as such. But at any rate, I noted the directors focused on the sweat, bare feet and mud. Maybe something symbolic in there- who knows. Maybe it'll turn up in the next movie.

I didn't think that scene was that long personally. It seemed like it lasted about 15 or 20 seconds- it was over before I knew it at any rate. The freeway chase scene was a little long for my tastes but I guess that's what it's all about isn't it? Personal taste.

I don't have a television and it's been over a decade since I saw any American television but over here, you would see much more graphic sex scenes on normal television (than in the Matrix)- I mean much more graphic. Nudity is common on British television. Is it that way on American television? Do the daytime soaps not have sex scenes? Just curious. And like I mentioned about the ballet earlier- there was nudity on the stage and many small children in the audience. How does that work in the States? Or would that ballet be banned?

(I thought Trinity and Neo were wrestling. Looked like he had her pinned...) ;-)

29 posted on 05/31/2003 12:04:40 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Since you are talking to an unrepentant prude, I'd say MatrixII was racy for my taste, certainly I wouldn't take a kid not a highschool grad. I have a monster TV that I bought just to watch LOTRings...but I seldom watch network TV. I do like movies.

Regular cable offerings do not have nudity, that I'm aware of...but so many new stations enter the picture that I can't keep track of them. I filter out network TV, and put up with some rather vulgar cartoons that my kids like.

"Spirited Away" was truly excellent.

30 posted on 05/31/2003 12:15:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Prodigal Son
Classical ballet in America does NOT have nudity. I've seen CLASSICAL ballet from the UK/Russia/etc and I've NEVER seen nudity.

I've also taken ballet for years, and I will tell you as a ballet dancer that ONE of the reasons a girl will be in ballet is BECAUSE of the costumes.

Balanchine (and post-) and others do NOT do Classical Ballet unclothed.

Ballet is STILL a CLASSICAL CONSERVATIVE art.

There are however those that call their MODERN crap "ballet", and it's not.
31 posted on 05/31/2003 12:24:45 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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