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To: janetgreen
"What do you propose to do with the estimated 15 million who are already here and are already on some form of government assistance?"

1) End it. The Federal gov't and each state should be able to say, "¡no más!" The National ID card becomes mandatory for any immigrant immediately. You don't go sign up for the card, you don't get a job, you don't get to cash checks, etc. without a valid Guest Worker card. Time for drastic welfare reform--beginning with illegals, and then sweeping across all of American society.

2) For those already here illegally, I guess we have two choices. Either (a) round 'em all up and ship 'em home--highly unlikely, since the INS can't seem to do that now, or (b) grant a provisional amnesty (as happened under Reagan in 1987), but this time, the illegal must come forward and MUST pay a fine of, say, $500 each, in order to receive his Guest ID card. If there are 15 million, as you say, that'd be $7.5 Billion if they all ponied up. The revenues from the fines should be routed back to border states that have paid the brunt of illegal immigration. Those that don't sign up and pay the fine--most services will be denied to them, so it shouldn't be too hard to find them and ship 'em home.


"Illegal aliens are bankrupting our states, and there's no reason to believe that the legal ones won't do the same thing."

They won't if we don't let them. Did the Irish bankrupt the states? The Chinese? The Italians? No. They immigrated here legally (and thank God they did), but they weren't coddled and given handouts. They had to work hard and by God they had to become Americans. Let's allow the others to do the same, and preserve some self-respect, by ending the freebies.

"It's called the government tit, and they like it. Good deal for them, bad deal for us."

The government teat isn't dood for anyone. It needs to dry up now. Agreed.
36 posted on 05/31/2003 6:34:11 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?)
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To: MNLDS
You have some pretty good ideas. The old fashioned way was the best way, it worked back then, and would work now, but the politicians are too busy hawking votes and favors, and won't listen to common sense. There are a few that do seem to listen, but they're few and far between.

This is not a racial thing, it's an economic thing, and Americans rightfully resent being forced to reward lawbreakers with all the social services, schooling and medical care when many Americans can hardly afford to pay their own bills. Many of these Americans in the trade industries have lost their jobs to illegal aliens who work for less, and this isn't fair.

Employers who hire illegals should be warned against it, then fined if they do not comply. American jobs should go to Americans, not foreigners. This applies to the H1B visas holders too who have put many Americans out of work by working for less. It doesn't make economic sense. Again, the politicians are deaf on this.

38 posted on 05/31/2003 7:51:23 PM PDT by janetgreen
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