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To: Helms
Islam is a bad program in its current form. If Judeo-Christian America is the best human construct in our history ... Islam is one of the worst. It's a scam for despotism and inflammatory manipulation from the day Mohammed probably killed some guy and found his notes. He always had visions from Allah just when he needed to round up some battle fodder for his next campaign or defense.

In a way, it's like the old Divine Right game the inbred European Monarchs played. The Quran means only what that Mosque's holy man interperts from original Arabic that nobody else has access. That's well regulated. The good Muslim people need to take those heretics to the mat before we do.

146 posted on 05/31/2003 9:07:36 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I agree and look at Islam from a memetic pov (point of view). I have known of few major Philosophers that thought highly of this Religion which as you rightly point out appears to be highly resistant to change and carries with it a highly militaristic component.

http://www.memecentral.com/

* What is a meme?

* Memes are the basic building blocks of our minds and culture, in the same way that genes are the basic building blocks of biological life.

* Isn't memetics just a fancy name for _________ (fill in the blank with "cultural evolution", "behavioral psychology", "sociobiology", or anything else)? Why is this anything new?

* The breakthrough in memetics is in extending Darwinian evolution to culture. There are several exciting conclusions from doing that, one of which is the ability to predict that ideas will spread not because they are "good ideas", but because they contain "good memes" such as danger, food and sex that push our evolutionary buttons and force us to pay attention to them.

* Who invented memes?

* Oxford zoologist Richard Dawkins is credited with first publication of the concept of meme in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene.

* If memes control our thoughts and therefore our actions, what about free will?

* We continually understand more and more about how our bodies and minds work. We now know that trillions of organic nanomachines in the cells of our bodies work together to give us life. Neither that understanding nor the new understanding of our minds that memetics will give us should affect the philosophical question of free will.

* In Virus of the Mind, you seem to neglect truth as a main reason that memes replicate, focusing instead on psychological button-pushing, evangelism, and other non-obvious means. Why?

* First, the theoretical reason. Our minds evolved to support survival and reproduction in the ancestral environment (Stone Age). The kind of truth that would have aided that would have pertained to knowledge of terrain, seasons, and so on. These things are concrete and simple. Our society today is so complex that concrete and simple things that "make sense" are likely to out-compete "true" memes that are less appealing. Second, empirical evidence shows that students are getting worse and worse at knowledge tests.

152 posted on 05/31/2003 9:21:37 AM PDT by Helms (Dems Find Smoking Gun: 45-55 Loss in Senate, Bush Wins 2nd Term)
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