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Public was misled, claim ex-CIA men
The Times (U.K.) ^
| 05/31/03
| Tim Reid
Posted on 05/30/2003 4:28:19 PM PDT by Pokey78
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:28:20 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
So then, I guess the intelligence the CIA gave to Clinton was wrong in 1998 too? I guess the intelligence we recived from British intelligence was wrong, how about the intelligence we received from Russian and German intelligence? That wrong too?
To: McGavin999
Don't forget that the UN knew Iraq had WMDs.
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:35:37 PM PDT
by
rudypoot
To: Pokey78
Well, if dubya & friends cooked up info about Iraq, that's wrong and he should be held to account for it.
But I don't care if Iraq had WMD's or not, we still should have gone ahead with the war.
They [Iraq/Saddam/his associates] broke the deal that ended the hostilities the first time. They broke the deal, and since they broke the deal it's only logical that they should face the consequences of breaking the deal.
They broke the deal and they deserved what they got.. Period.
In fact, they should have been punished under Bill Clinton and all this Iraq stuff should have been old news already..
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:42:17 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
To: Pokey78
The bias of a news writer is usually revealed by the final thought of the story. When the final conclusion has nothing to do with the headline, I'm less than enthused about the quality of the information presented.
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:45:08 PM PDT
by
Paraclete
To: Pokey78; aristeides
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity If you have to proclaim your sanity, most likely it's in doubt.
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:45:37 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Pokey78
Sounds like these guys didn't work for the CIA, but for state department intelligence.
They look at everythiung with pink glasses as long as it some one who hates the us.
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:47:42 PM PDT
by
dts32041
("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
To: Pokey78
the American public were misled about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction before the war. Apparently, the whole thing was a sham. Saddam was a really nice guy. He used to go up and barbeque with the Kurds all the time.
Those checks he used to write for the palestinian terrorists, those were for anti-terror education programs. He just couldn't understand why we kept blowing up his baby formula factories.
And those sleeper cells were just a bunch of guys trying to make a better mattress for the less fortunate.
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:49:56 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: Pokey78
Hah, where were these guys when Clinton made a joke out of the CIA and ignored all their warnings? I smell some rats!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; seamole; blam; Dog
"Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity"
Here's an article from them.
http://www.counterpunch.org/vips03152003.html Members listed:
Richard Beske, San Diego
Kathleen McGrath Christison, Santa Fe
William Christison, Santa Fe Patrick Eddington, Alexandria, VA
Raymond McGovern, Arlington, VA
Steering Committee Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
And finally:
The VIPS can be reached at:
vips@counterpunch.org -----So, VIPS is a Counterpunch.org front group???
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:53:28 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Pokey78
You may not realise the extent of the current ferment within the intelligence community and particularly the CIA. In intelligence, there is one unpardonable sin cooking intelligence to the recipe of high policy. There is ample indication that this has been done in Iraq.
Haven't we been here before? Americans do not spell realize with an "S". But the article uses quotes around the sentence. Did they change it for their own readers or is it fabrictaed again?
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posted on
05/30/2003 4:58:41 PM PDT
by
chief911
To: Pokey78
This is horsesh*t, from the slams against Rumsfeld to the slams against Cheney.
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posted on
05/30/2003 5:09:41 PM PDT
by
Endeavor
To: Pokey78
While I do personally believe that we engaged in this war illegally and immorally, it occurred to me the other day that we did, as a result, become a "major oil producing nation" - virtually overnight.
That may be so significant a development that it's worthy dirtying ourselves with a lie or two(?) Maybe the ends really does justify the means(?)
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posted on
05/30/2003 5:10:01 PM PDT
by
The Duke
To: Jhoffa_
Well, if dubya & friends cooked up info about Iraq, that's wrong and he should be held to account for it. But I don't care if Iraq had WMD's or not, we still should have gone ahead with the war.
Exactly right on both counts. At first glance, this piece reminds me of the one some Brit paper ran saying that we had gotten caught spying on Security Council members. That just kind of fizzled away, didn't it?
MM
To: Pokey78
If they no longer work for the CIA how can they know the intelligence was 'cooked'?
To: Catalonia
Well it certainly wasn't accurate, so that leaves open someone to make an allegation that it was "cooked".
This may be more of a problem for Blair then Bush, but still, the inability to find this stuff is not good. And it will call into question any future claims by the intelligence community about issues like this. I have to be honest, if Bush now told us that the WMD was buried in the Bekaa Valley, should be believe that intelligence is accurate? That is a real problem, the loss of credibility.
To: oceanview
I have to be honest, if Bush now told us that the WMD was buried in the Bekaa Valley, should be believe that intelligence is accurate? That is a real problem, the loss of credibility. And having saddam sponsoring terrorism today is what, ultimate credibility.
The world is a much better place with saddam gone, unless you are the french or a hand wringing leftist who wishes that saddam and uday today are still sipping margaritas on the banks of the Tigris in one of their grandiose palaces.
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posted on
05/30/2003 5:26:16 PM PDT
by
Dane
To: Pokey78
Public was misled, claim ex-CIA men Note "ex-CIA". Are these klintonistas or just disgruntled "ex" employees?
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posted on
05/30/2003 5:27:18 PM PDT
by
zip
To: Dane
For once I agree with you Dane.
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posted on
05/30/2003 5:30:35 PM PDT
by
KEVLAR
To: Pokey78
The indignation of the CIA is laughable. These are the world's most audacious liars.
Exhibit A is the CIA "animation" created to supposedly explain the destruction of TWA Flight 800 in 1996. There is no credible pilot or aeronautical engineer who can look at the animation and say it can possibly conform to the laws of physics. That, of course, is setting aside the question of what the hell the CIA was doing in the investigation of what was supposedly an airline "accident." Under federal law, airline crashes are investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board which was basically jerked off the case by the Clinton administration.
The CIA accusing anyone of lying is a gut-buster. They have been lying their collective asses off since the agency first came into existence. They turned bald-faced lying into a profession.
The CIA missed seeing the break-up of the Soviet Union before it happened. They blew big-time on the attacks of September 11, 2001.
Some "intelligence" pros they are expressing outrage at other governmental bodies they say are lying. It's kind of like Laurel and Hardy looking down their noses at the Three Stooges and calling them "silly."
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