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To: Ichneumon; justshutupandtakeit
Alexander Hamilton was the first liberal Democrat. No question. Jefferson and Madison couldn't stand him. Neither could Adams (and obviously he didn't get along with Burr).

Why? Big government. Out of the gate he wanted to federalilze the war debts of the States. He got his way by trading Virginia for the new capital location.
172 posted on 05/30/2003 4:03:48 PM PDT by The Raven (Tax relief - You gotta be in it to win it)
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To: The Raven
"Liberal Democrats" stand for strong military forces and a foreign policy which puts the United States first? Since when? Hamilton is almost universally condemned by the University Leftists precisely because he was the most far Right of the Founders. It was because of hatred of Hamilton that the Democratic party was founded by Jefferson and Madion.

Jefferson is the father of the RAT party of deceit and demagogery. He totally opposed the strong military, totally opposed a Navy and worked to destroy both while president and before. His power was dependent on the NY RAT machine (which fought Hamilton and the constitution tooth and nail) and rabble rousers across the nation. He totally supported the Reign of Terror in France and schemed incessently to ally us with France.

Hamilton outsmarted him with the funding scheme which was the capitalization of the Blood of the Revolutionaries and a price of Freedom. His brillant insight into funding set the course of the nation on centuries of Economic growth. We are the most powerful nation on earth because of his brilliance in discerning that the capitalized word of America was as valuable as Gold. No wonder he was Washington's closest collaborator for 20 yrs.

Little wonder it took a concentrated conspiracy (now known as the DemocRATic Party) against him to attempt to frustrate his policies (the policies of the Washington administration were Hamilton's.) How ironic that a man like Jefferson: deceitful, hypocritical, dissembling and dishonest could be held higher in the estimation of his countrymen than a man like Hamilton who fought his entire life for freedom and national independence whose integrity was beyond compare whose forthrightedly standing for what he believed earned him the enmity of those who prefered to work in the shadows, through loathsome surrogates, and whose actions do not come close to matching his words. The more one learns of Jefferson the worse he comes off. Of course, if you prefer the Parson Weems type of mythology to cold, hard reality you are welcome to it.
243 posted on 06/02/2003 8:18:41 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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