[muskogee]

"Ugly stuff has been going on for millenia, but no sign of any gods."
I think ugly stuff has been going on far longer than millenia, but so has beautiful stuff. Millenia are microseconds in a cosmic view. How can a person define ugly without having witnessed the beautiful?

[MineralMan]

"How can a person define ugly without having witnessed the beautiful? "

And the reverse, of course.