Translation - your unwillingness to roll over and agree with me is disturbing. My comments speak for themself. I don't need your translation, thanks.
I think you have very little imagination and very little knowledge of history.
Don't patronize me like some little pissant. I'm not some kid in his first year at Berkley.
I disagree with you and I can state my reasons.
Likewise, I disagree with you and I've stated my reasons why. Your reasons are highly subjective, not clearly defined, and amount to "might makes right". I don't think that's very logical.
Your reasons are highly subjective, not clearly defined, and amount to "might makes right". I don't think that's very logical. OK, this has taken more time than I wanted, but I have gone through this thread searching for my posts and have collected my arguments. I'm using numbers so you can refer to them by number. Tell me which ones are subjective. Tell me which ones amount to "might makes right."
- Biologically, sex is about reproduction. Therefore, homosex is not about sex.
- Humans can and must control their appetites to be fully human.
- For someone to say they can't love someone else based on physical appearance indicates an arrested state of development.
- Our culture is a heterosexual culture. Homosex is maladapted to it.
- Homosex is immoral. No religious code recognizes it as moral or even neutral.
- All laws are based on a moral position.
- Normalizing homosex is a change from what was without any contributing positive justification.
- No society which has accepted homosex has survived. While this does not prove acceptance of homosex as the cause, it is not an endorsement of acceptance of homosex.
- Black slavery was wrong because it presumed blacks themselves were sub-human. Once this was discovered to be untrue there was pursuasive reason to abolish it. There has been no claim that homosexuals are sub-human and there has been no pursuasive reason to normalize it.
- The APA removed homosex from its DSM because it decided that maladaptations that the person was willing to live with were not to be considered diseases. The appropriate response to homosexuals moved from curing them to helping them get used to being homosexuals.
- The moral laws on sexuality are as universal as the laws on the right to life and are based on heterosexual marriage being the proper expression of sexuality.
- The moral law is a fundamental law of the universe, like physical laws. It may be difficult to determine, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
- Individuals are impacted by the moral claims of their culture.
- The rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness have not always been recognized. They were first posited by the Judeo-Christian faith based on the fact that man is an image-bearer of G-d.
Shalom.