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UV light may have sparked life on Earth
NewScientist.com ^ | May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 4:35:41 PM PDT by StupidQuestions

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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
That is one possible reason why abiogenesis does not rule out a creator. To my thinking, neither abiogenesis nor evolution says anything about the existence of God. But, I have no belief that our Universe is Anthropic by design. It might be but I have no firm belief that it is.
21 posted on 05/29/2003 5:53:49 PM PDT by StupidQuestions
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To: RightWhale
They did exactly such an experiment in the 50's. A jar was half-filled with simple liquid compounds thought to be present in the ancient, primordial sea. A mixture of a few gases above formed what they thought to be the early atmosphere. Applying an electric spark (lightening) did cause amino acids, the precursors of protein, to be formed. It was an interesting experiment, but one thing not widely reported was that the aminos had to be withdrawn from the vial as they were created, otherwise the same spark that formed them would also blast them back into their original components.
22 posted on 05/29/2003 5:56:34 PM PDT by plusone
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To: StupidQuestions
You done good on the first post.
23 posted on 05/29/2003 5:56:57 PM PDT by b4its2late ("Do, or do not. There is no 'try'." - Yoda ('The Empire Strikes Back'))
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Despite any first impression I might have formed of you, I have no problem with the Anthropic Principle. I'm not sure it contributes anything to the hard work of discovering the history of life, but it doesn't impede it either.
24 posted on 05/29/2003 5:59:37 PM PDT by js1138
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To: plusone
Yes, I'm not coming up with the name of the scientist, but the experiment was of vast societal import. One of the pivotal science demonstrations.
25 posted on 05/29/2003 6:03:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
Sorry, I'm not up to speed today. That was sarcasm? (But why?)
26 posted on 05/29/2003 6:05:26 PM PDT by plusone
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To: plusone
No, it was a pivotal experiment. What was his name?
27 posted on 05/29/2003 6:06:48 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: PatrickHenry
Than you for the ping. I don't respond to these threads all that much....but I sure as hell enjoy reading them.
28 posted on 05/29/2003 6:08:31 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Living under a rock is looking better every day.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
I don't respond to these threads all that much....but I sure as hell enjoy reading them.

I ping you so that we'll have quality lurkers.

29 posted on 05/29/2003 6:12:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Idiots are on "virtual ignore," and you know exactly who you are.)
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To: RightWhale
I'll have to do a web search...
30 posted on 05/29/2003 6:13:05 PM PDT by plusone
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To: RightWhale
Stanley Miller.
31 posted on 05/29/2003 6:14:47 PM PDT by js1138
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To: RightWhale
It was Stanley Miller.
32 posted on 05/29/2003 6:14:53 PM PDT by plusone
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To: PatrickHenry
A spontaneously generated placemarker ;)
33 posted on 05/29/2003 6:16:01 PM PDT by BMCDA (To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods. -R.A.Heinlein)
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To: Dataman
Desperate Substitute Theory #34792

"Yeah... yeah: ultraviolet light. That's the ticket!"

Dan

34 posted on 05/29/2003 6:20:51 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: StupidQuestions
This article does not expound a theory. It does not even set forth a hypothesis. It is a mere speculation and is a rather wild one at that.

As long as we are engaging in speculation about the origin of life on Earth, I'd recommend Thomas Gold's "The Deep Hot Biosphere" as a reasoned speculation far more interesting and potentially far more important. Why? Becasue it is far more likely to be correct.
35 posted on 05/29/2003 6:45:14 PM PDT by John Valentine (Writing from downtown Seoul, keeping an eye on the hills to the north.)
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To: plusone
Stanley Miller. I read the story in the NYT. They used to have a great paper. Such an ordinary name, Stanley Miller. Now, of course they find amino acids in the gas clouds between stars. Seems to be something nature does without our assistance. It was next to unbelievable at the time; but now we say, of course, how could it be otherwise?
36 posted on 05/29/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: John Valentine
Wow! You're in Korea. How is the atmosphere? Tense, expectant, same old same-o?
37 posted on 05/29/2003 6:54:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: StupidQuestions
Ultra-violet light, long thought to be an impediment to the early formation of long organic molecules, may in fact hold the key to the origin of life

In a zero sum game I might say; 'yup maybe it did'. But my next thought would be of where the UV light originated and who turned the lights on anyway?;-)

38 posted on 05/29/2003 6:59:59 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I ping you so that we'll have quality lurkers.

I'm flattered that you would use the word "quality", and my screen name in the same sentence.

39 posted on 05/29/2003 7:00:18 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Living under a rock is looking better every day.)
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To: John Valentine
Folks have dug pretty deep for Thomas's Gold without finding any. I'd love to see him proved right, but so far no joy.
40 posted on 05/29/2003 7:03:22 PM PDT by js1138
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