Philadelphia Council Flouts Scouts' Antigay Stance

Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | May 29,2003 | By Linda K. Harris and Miriam Hill

[Tribune7]

The other thing too is how will this affect the BSA's liability insurance. See my earlier post about the Catholic Church.

[Tribune7]

Read too fast. Cradle of Liberty Council not VF. Very sorry VF

[whereasandsoforth]

Didn't that famous homosexual, Elton John, set this in motion years ago with his song "Philadelphia Freedom"?

BSA needs to dissolve this council and move the boys to a less radical group. Why put up with this crap? Or should they go ahead and drill glory holes in the camp showers?

[FLAUSA]

The BSA is actually a multitude of complicated organizations. First, the professional organization hires and fires Council Execs, who are employees of the Boy Scouts of America. If The Council Exec made this decision, then he or she is history. More than likely it was the council executive board, which are community volunteers, that made this decision. If so, then there is not much that the national office can do about it immediately. Although in the long run, the concil exec can replace those board members who are pro gay. The article is unclear about who actually made this decision, but I would guess that a local politician who is a council board member was involved. In such case the local politician will not be asked to continue hes/her service on the board. The term for board members is usually one year. Meanwhile, the local politician has picked up some brownie points from the gay community.

However, the council office does not appoint Scoutmasters, gay or otherwize. Scoutmasters are appointed by each individual troop and their sponsoring organization, with the approval of the council office and the national office.

In the case of a gay Scoutmaster, the national office can refuse that person membership in the Boy Scouts of America, which means that any scout troop which appoints a scoutmaster who is not approved is no longer a "Boy Scout Troop."

In any event, those folks who are concerned about gay scoutmasters should get involved locally at the Boy Scout Troop level. It is the troop who recommends to the sponsoring organization who is a scoutmaster or assistant scoutmaster.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

"... and this, Billy, is how we start a fire by rubbing two Cub Scouts together..."

[gwmoore]

Good Afternoon, Owl_Eagle,

No you're not alone. I earned my Eagle and 2 palms back in the late 50's early 60's. This was back when we actually had a Valley Forge Council.

Now, here's the problem. How can the Philadelphia Council take a non-discriminatory policy against homosexuals considering first and foremost, the Scout Oath???

Unless they have removed the phrase "Morally Straight", it flies in the face of reason.

Keep the Faith for Freedom

Greg

[AdamSelene235]

So it really is the city of brotherly love.

[Mears]

Thanks for your wonderful explanation,it makes things a little easier to understand.

[DaBroasta]

You'd think at least the homosexual lobby wouldn't want to attract that kind of attention to themselves

Homosexuals aren't born, they're made and teenage boys are the primary targets of homosexual recruiting efforts.

[fatima]

Thanks for this info Owl_Eagle.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Back Sliding Ping!

[Coleus]

They sold their soul to the Devil just for financial contributions from the United Way and corporations. I think many moral people will stop contributing.

http://www.scouting.org/media/press/020206/index.html

http://www.scouting.org/media/values/fact.html

http://www.scouting.org/media/values/points.html

http://www.scouting.org/media/values/bedrock.html

http://www.scouting.org/media/values/newsletter/0101/americanlegion.html

[THUNDER ROAD]

This appears to be the link to the
Philly Council of the BSA Page >>>
http://www.colbsa.org/

.....THUNDER......

[Coleus]

Thanks....E-Mail them here

http://www.colbsa.org/staff%20list%20101001.htm

http://www.colbsa.org/Contacts.htm

[THUNDER ROAD]

Well... I did E-mail them ,
and quite a good letter it was
but I just got all I sent, back...just now
as Undeliverable Mail !

They Neeed a Good Freepin' !
so I'll keep lookin' for a Legitimate Link
for E mail to them

.....THUNDER......

[Coleus]

They've probably shut down their server from the backlash; I'm sure we aren't the only ones writing them. I just e mailed the article and web link out to my friends.

[j_tull]

"We were not prepared to allow our kids to be casualties on the battlefield of adults who should know better," Cohen said.

"I am not prepared to allow my child to be a casualty to a buttshark leader in your council, Mr. Cohen," Mr. Tull said.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling about a sodomite taking my son out on an overnight camping trip.

It's really sad. Hopefully, parents can take turns chaperoning all Boy Scout activities.

[RonF]

Wel, this is a bit of a sidebar, but it goes to the reliability of the reporter:

In July 2001, the Boston Minuteman Council approved a bylaw that challenged the national council's policy. The rule effectively allows gay youths to be scouts and gay men to serve as scout leaders as long as they do not openly reveal or discuss their sexual orientation.

Ahh, no, in fact this is "Don't ask, don't tell", and it's precisely in line with National policy. You can be gay and a Scout or Scouter, as long as you don't discuss your orientation.

[Clint N. Suhks]

You can be gay and a Scout or Scouter, as long as you don't discuss your orientation.

You can be a bestial Scout or Scouter, as long as you don't discuss your orientation too. It doesn’t mean you’re serving honorably OR legally in the BSA, remember Scalia in the Dale case found the BSA doesn’t seek out ax murderers either.

Don't ask, don't tell is something you and the other pro-homosexuals made up out of whole cloth...or maybe you can cite that regulation for us, OK?