Is Clay (Aiken) gay? You know we asked -- An Advocate Exclusive

The Advocate ^ | May 22, 2003 | Alonso Duralde

[RockandRollResurrection]

>Hey, where do you put your >johnson? In another man's buttox?

Where do you put yours? If you answer, "in a woman's buttox" you are just like the 20% of heterosexuals who are also practicing sodomites. 'Sodomy' isn't about gender, it's about the orifice, and very few heteros stick to the same one all the time.

Sorry if you are offended by the graphic nature of this post, but you brought the sunject up.

[RockandRollResurrection]

*subject*

[Corin Stormhands]

I thought that was Pat "Toilet Voice" Robertson. HE was the one who made Tinky Winky a gay icon. No one else.

I thought it was Falwell. I could be wrong. But I'm fairly certain that the gay community also "adopted" TW as a bit of a cultural icon. But it didn't catch on to the extent of the color purple or the rainbow. Again, I could be wrong.

But the point is, they can claim anything and everyone "is" gay. Doesn't mean they are.

[RockandRollResurrection]

But the point is, they can claim anything and everyone "is" gay. Doesn't mean they are This is true, and I do see the silliness of the whole issue. I actually know someone who thinks that EVERY celebrity is gay (not really, but almost). I have absolutely no opinion of Clay, since I haven't seen episode ONE of American Idol or any related shows. The fact that he didn't say "No!" when asked will however lead to speculation, as evidenced by this article/thread.

[libravoter]

I never saw a gay person with a Tinky Winky doll/symbol until -after- Falwell made an idiot of himself with it.

[dandelion]

"If you are Christian and believe the Bible is Gods Holy Word, then you cannot be homosexual."

Not true - one can be Christian, and still fall into sin. The question is, will you recognize it and yourself to be set free?

The difference between the "Christian" and the "Sinner" is not that the Christian never sins; it is that the Christian repents and is forgiven of his sins. The difference is not in the person - the difference is Jesus Christ in that person.

[bonfire]

My little (40 now) brother got picked on quite a bit in our neighborhood. I remember walking right into a neighbors house and yellin' "Where's DICKEY?????" The whole family pointed towards the basement...I pounded down and read that nasty kid the riot act. Don't ever mess with anyone's Mom OR sister!! lol

Gosh, being a mom is a rough job. We feel our kids hurts far deeper than they do. Hang in there....take ten deep breaths...and THEN go beat the crap out of the offender! lol

[Celantro]

I'll tell you what boy. If you asked me if I was a homosexual in a crowd, you'd be lucky if all I did was look away from you. Asking a normal man that is one step worse than asking him if he eats bull**** for dinner.

[Wolfstar]

Thanks, Howlin. Personally, I wish the FR moderators would pull threads such as this as soon as they get started. If we were debating public policy, that's one thing. But to just drag this kid (or anyone) through the mud like this is highly distasteful to me.

Clay is interesting. There's a kind of geeky boyish charm about him that, combined with his huge talent and bubbly, outgoing personality, should take him as far as he wants to go in show business. It's too bad the movie musical genre has been moribund for so long. It was tailor-made for someone like Clay.

BTW, Clay kind of reminds me of another skinny, geeky, boyish charmer named Fred Astaire. He also had some mannerisms that could be considered girlish. However, he most definitely was not gay.

[hsmomx3]

Everytime the Peterson case comes on, my better half immediately changes the channel and complains, "And we are paying $40/month to watch this?"

[hsmomx3]

The only thing I have ever watched was Fear Factor just to see what crazy things they would be eating.

[deJaz]

Who really cares if he's gay or not.He has a great voice no matter.

[Conspiracy Guy]

I don't care if he's anything. I don't like his voice or Rueben's. Neither of them seemed to offer anything new to me. I only watched fragments as I passed though the house but managed to hear the last 5 or 6 finalists on more than one occasion. People will buy their stuff but then again people will buy most anything. Good luck to all of them.

[Gopher Broke]

Seek counseling help, readers of THE ADVOCATE.

Thousands have left the destructive homosexual lifestyle, with the help of groups like Kerusso Ministries and Exodus, International.

[rintense]

Not true - one can be Christian, and still fall into sin. The question is, will you recognize it and yourself to be set free?

Correct. There isn't one among us who is without sin. The difference is Christ. My good friend has come to loathe organized religion because she sees such hypocrisy among Christians, the 'hollier than thou' or 'typical' Christians. I tried to explain to her that not all Christians are that way. And that no one is perfect. We are all with sin. And we all have a way to forgiveness.

[Zavien Doombringer]

One thing missing.

1. Recognize that you are sinning.

2. Asking for forgiveness of sin, i.e Homosexuality

3. Repent form that sin - Meaning do not do that sin anymore.

Hebrews 10:26 - For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Meaning, who are you still crucifying?

[dandelion]

Normally I don't repost, but I don't think you read my original reply, so here it is:

>Not true - one can be Christian, and still fall into sin. The question is, will you recognize it and yourself to be set free?

>The difference between the "Christian" and the "Sinner" is not that the Christian never sins; it is that the Christian repents and is forgiven of his sins. The difference is not in the person - the difference is Jesus Christ in that person.

That covers the three things you asked about -

1. Recognize that you are sinning
>"one can be Christian, and still fall into sin. The question is, will you recognize it"...

2. Asking for forgiveness of sin, i.e. Homosexuality

3. Repent form (sic) that sin - meaning we do not sin anymore
>" the Christian repents and is forgiven of his sins the Christian repents and is forgiven of his sins"...

We have all crucified Christ through our own sins. We, as you suggest, continue to crucify Christ when we depart from what is a healthy relationship with God and/or His Creation. The question is, do we recognize that crucifixion as God recognizes it - as a chance for forgiveness and true healing? Or do we simply see it as a pre-punched "ticket to heaven"?

When we overlook the process of repentance, forgiveness and healing as a lifelong pursuit, we are missing out on our greatest chance to grow as human beings and as spiritual beings. Recognition of any sin - be it gluttony, slothfulness, greed, envy, lust, anger, or pride - is a chance to change our relationships with God and man for the better. What keeps us as Christians from continuing in the path of true forgiveness and growth is the sin of pride.

[Zavien Doombringer]

As a Christian, can you sin and maintain your testamony infront of the non-believer? How can you say Jesus delivered you from a particular sin if you still do it. That makes a mockery of the Christ. If you do not continue in Homosexual practices, you are not a Homosexual. You have to let Christ clean you up. Sin cannot enter into heaven, the Blood of Jesus cleans us from sin, but with out guidance from the Holy Spirit and fellowship with other christians, we will wander back into the muddy pit. (backsliding). No, scripture clearly dictates who will not enter into heaven, and those that continue in homosexual practices will not. Read leviticus18 and 20 and 1Corintians. God hasn't changed his laws. He just made it easier to get into heaven.

[dandelion]

Zavien, I'm going to repost again:

>"...one can be Christian, and still fall into sin. The question is, will you recognize it and yourself to be set free?

>The difference between the "Christian" and the "Sinner" is not that the Christian never sins; it is that the Christian repents and is forgiven of his sins. The difference is not in the person - the difference is Jesus Christ in that person."

The word, repent, is indicative that the person sinning no longer sins. There is no continuation of the sin, and if one falls back into bad habits, one repents yet again and tries even harder to make it work.

Please read the above post before you continue. I have posted the word repent three times in this post. I have not even remotely suggested that any person can continue in sin. If you truly do not understand what I am posting regarding repentance of sin, and it's place in Christian life, there is a wonderful discussion available at

Gospelcom.net: Pathway of Repentance and Growth.

Actually, (and this does not appear to refer to you, Zavien) I just got completely amazed. I referred to this article not knowing that it directly addresses those who struggle with homosexuality and Christianity - it seems that God is trying to reach someone here on this board. Someone needs to know they are not alone, and God does not abandon us to our struggles. He is there with us, every step of the way.

Zavien, I think God just used your misunderstanding to reach someone. Thanks for being persistant!

[longtermmemmory]

after the public schools have extensive feminizing? tv commercials portray men as stupid women? where would you expect to find places to teach manhood and fatherhood?