FRom the DumP Davi$.com site. http://www.dumpdavis.net/progress3.htm
Posted on 05/28/2003 7:56:41 AM PDT by dalereed
CALIFORNIA
Davis allies to launch anti-recall campaign
By John Marelius
STAFF WRITER
May 28, 2003
Acknowledging for the first time they regard the recall drive against Gov. Gray Davis as serious, allies of the governor took the first official steps yesterday to launch a campaign to defend him.
Meanwhile, recall sponsors declared their petition campaign was well on its way to gathering the required number of signatures to force a special recall election, although petitions were just beginning to dribble in to the offices of county registrars of voters around the state.
A coalition of bedrock Davis support groups – representing organized labor, environmental and minority organizations – is scheduled to hold a news conference in Sacramento today to unveil the anti-recall campaign.
The effort will be directed by a key Davis administration official with long political ties. Steve Smith, who is taking a leave of absence as director of the California Labor and Workforce Development Agency to run the campaign, is a former official of the California State Employees Association and the California Democratic Party.
The pro-Davis coalition is chaired by Dan Terry, president of the California Professional Firefighters. Other key members are the Rev. Cecil "Chip" Murray, pastor of First AME Church in Los Angeles; Mary Bergen, president of the California Federation of Teachers; Fred Keeley, executive director of the Planning and Conservation League; and Miguel Contreras, executive secretary-treasurer of the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor.
Calling itself "Taxpayers Against the Recall," the pro-Davis campaign is expected to attack the recall rather than defend Davis. Its first tactic is a counter-petition drive that has no legal effect but seeks to send a statement of public condemnation.
"The objective is to try to get a statement from the public of concern about the taxpayer money that might be spent on this," said Carroll Wills, spokesman for the California Professional Firefighters.
One Democratic strategist said the counter campaign will pay top dollar – $2 per signature, as opposed to the 75 cents per signature the recall petitioners are getting.
The Democrat said they hope to persuade recall circulators to switch sides or at least greatly drive up the costs for the recall's new financial angel, Republican Rep. Darrell Issa of Vista.
Issa, a wealthy former car-alarm entrepreneur, has contributed $445,000 of the $600,000 raised for the paid signature-gathering effort to date.
For a recall election to be held, the signatures of nearly 900,000 registered California voters must be collected by Sept. 2.
As of yesterday, 18,590 signatures had been turned in – all of them in San Diego and Sacramento counties.
But Dave Gilliard, who is directing the Issa petition drive, said 200,000 signatures have been collected in the past 16 days and are being processed for submission to county registrars.
Copyright 2003 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.
The Democrat said they hope to persuade recall circulators to switch sides or at least greatly drive up the costs for the recall's new financial angel, Republican Rep. Darrell Issa of Vista."
That's what I call desperation!
The volunteer effort is moving along so well these peo;le don't stand a chance of stopping it.
Some of them probably are, but even some of them can't defend the indefensible, Gray Davis.
No, those are VERY useful idiots.
The Democrat said they hope to persuade recall circulators to switch sides or at least greatly drive up the costs for the recall's new financial angel, Republican Rep. Darrell Issa of Vista."
Give you petition collectors an extra set of petitions and ask each signer to sign both.... one set to sell to Davis for $2.00 a signature and one to sell to the Recall Committee for $0.75. That would allow the petition collectors to increase their income from 75 cents a signer to $2.75 a signer. That should get a lot more people interested in collecting signatures and make the Davis strategy backfire totally.
FRom the DumP Davi$.com site. http://www.dumpdavis.net/progress3.htm
Then as each petition was turned into a phony office they could destory it. The Davis people could publicize that 95 out of 100 petition circulators really work for Davis. People would then refuse to sign the legitimate recall petitions because they had already signed another one, or believe that all petition collectors are Davis hires and sign none.
Davis could have his people publicize his phony recall strategy.. Run ads that say 95 out of 100 recall petition gatherers are Davis hires who will throw your signature away. That should reduce the number of people who would sign a petition.
A Democrat who would run ads in a Republican primary in order get the Republican nomination for someone he could easily beat, would not be above doing something close to what I say.
The road ahead is going to get a lot rockier as time wears on. People in the recall effort should start thinking ahead. I may not have figured out what sort of dirty trick davis will do, but bet your last dollar he is going to pull some sort of trick. The Recallers has best be prepared.
Uh HUH... Fraud is a deception done for unlawful gain.
It is not a crime to gather petition signatures for any reason.
It is not unlawful to ask citizines to sign a petition. that will not be filed. It is no more illegal than it is to ask some one to sign a check and then never cash the check.
That is pretty slimy. Unlike voter registration, which requires the collector to submit the application within a few days, a fraudulent recall signature collector could just hold on to the signatures without turning them in by the deadline or ever.
I thought about it a while back, but I decided that there is enough dissatisfaction in CA with Davis to overcome any such schemes. Besides, if people knew about that kind of deception, they would be even more motivated to vote Davis out of office at the recall election.
I already heard on the radio a caller asked why he had to pay money to get a copy of the petition online. Of course, the official petition is free, but the caller had mistakenly gone to the wrong website and became unnecessarily upset.
The propensity for such fraud or even simple error is why we only need 12% of the last vote to qualify the recall election and why it's important for the recall committees and talk radio to disseminate accurate info frequently.
But fraud says he must gain from deception. Where is the deception. If his agents say sign this petition to recall Gray Davis where is the deception. It is a petition to recall Gray Davis. If his agents never guarantee in writing that they will file the petition, then there is no deception.
What if someone asked you to sign a petition. You did so. Then you later found out the persons collecting the signatures never filed the petitions... how have you been defrauded? Such a signature gatherer made Zero use of your signature. Only if the petition or petitioner guaranteed the petition was was going to be filed, would it be fraud.
Davis's people are not all stupid.
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