Posted on 05/27/2003 6:34:29 PM PDT by getoffmylawn
The US "fabricated evidence" against former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic during clashes between Serbia and Bosnia in the mid-1990s, according to a prominent and experienced international peacekeeping official who served there.
Retired Swedish Brigadier General Bo Pellnas, who was head of UN Military Observers (UNMOs) in Croatia, now says that the US should not be trusted. Pellnas says that he learned to distrust US-provided evidence during peacekeeping service in the former Yugoslavia.
Pellnas's misgivings are described in an article from the Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbladet. Here is an English-language translation of this article:
In an interview with Sweden's leading news-wire TT, retired Brigadier Bo Pellnas claims that the US "faked evidence to suit their own interests."
"If the US were to present evidence of Iraqs weapons of mass destruction, the countries of the Western world would have no way to substantiate these reports due to the technical superiority of the US."
These are the words of retired Brigadier Bo Pellnas, who says he witnessed the US "fabricating fact to suit their own needs." Pellnas says he witnessed this first-hand when he led an international force which safeguarded the borders between Serbia and Bosnia in the mid-1990s, where he gained a very good insight and understanding of US operations. "The technical superiority of the US gives their politicians the option of bringing forth fake evidence, in this case in front of the United Nations Security Council."
Pellnas served in Yugoslavia during a time when US efforts, led by then Secretary of State Madeline Albright, presented evidence to the UN Security Council that Milosevic's Belgrade government ran unmonitored arms shipments. Pellnas claims that Albright's staff presented manipulated satellite photos to document false allegations, leading the Security Council to act in accordance with the US hard line against Milosevic.
"There might be a possibility that Albright thought the pictures to be true," says Pellnas, "but several incidents pointed towards the fact that the US lied." The US stood firm by their claims, refusing to show supporting evidence to Pellnas and other members of the peacekeeping crew.
"If the US were to come forth with evidence against Iraq which were "difficult to confirm," the permanent members of the Council will be put in a difficult situation, since they lack the sufficient tools to research and verify such claims."
Pellnas said he hopes that nations of the European Union make it their responsibility to build their own intelligence agency which has the capability to act as a counterbalance to the US. "It would be great indeed if the EU could act as a balance to the world's only true superpower, which acts alone these days."
In addition to his UN duties, Pellnas was also in charge of an international monitoring mission to Yugoslavia in 1994 sponsored by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), and worked with the International Conference on the Former Yugoslavia (ICFY), a group established in 1991 to find a peaceful solution to the region's conflicts.
We're nominating you for our gold medal of the day for this one.
Actually, I take issue with this line. Every ethnic group in the Balkans has its share of normal decent people and every group has its fair share of homicidal lunatics. I used to believe that the Serbs had a history that they deserved to be more proud of than any of the other peoples, unfortunately they failed to take the high road too often in Krajina, Bosnia and Kosovo and managed to spill their share of innocent blood. Now their name is forever tarnished and their punishment is to have the line blurred between them and the fascist Ustashe Croats and Nazi-alligned Albanians of Kosovo.
This isn't to say that I don't still believe in their cause and believe that they are the area's main victims in the arena of global politics. I believe the main instigator of much of the violence of the past 13 years to be outside influences. These include; the exiled Ustashe diaspora and its PR firms and lobby groups, pre-mature German and Vatican recognition (I suppose that team had such a good time together in the Balkans during WW2 they decided to give it another rub), Saudi arm twisting of the Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations so they'd buy our jet fighters from us, the IMF calling in its loans and forcing heavy handed and crippling economic reforms, and a bunch of other moves that I can't think of off the top of my head.
I'm not going to come out and use "they made us do it" as a weak excuse, but if you keep throwing gasoline on an already smoldering and volitile situation, nobody should be surprised if a fire speads from the stove top to the kitchen and once the kitchen is in flames, good luck trying to keep the rest of the house from burning too.
Espcecially those "3 Mass Graves" Maddie was displaying around the world. Less than a week upon her brazen lies, my "reliable" sources confirmed what those graves were- graves for the Serb military dead, muslim military dead and civilians. Just my sources from within certain places provided that information. Of course, Hoplitese will call in and say "pictures do not lie" etc... Much like Racak, the "Breadline Massacre" and such.
In August 1995, during a Security Council meeting, the US delegation to the United Nations accused the leadership of the Bosnian Serbs of having committed wide-scale atrocities against Muslim civilians. With what amounts to a satellite photo "peep show," Madeleine Albright had an excuse already prepared for the lack of evidence to support her charges. The NY Times in referring back to that session of the UN Security Council wrote:
"On Aug. 10, [1995] the chief United States delegate to the United Nations, Madeleine K. Albright, showed selected photos of the two sites to a closed session of the United Nations Security Council. She then said, 'We will keep watching to see if the Bosnian Serbs try to erase the evidence of what they have done.'" One of the earlier versions was the vanishing corpses through a corrosive agent. In the same article, the NY Times adds:
"American officials said today that they suspect Bosnian Serb soldiers may have tried to destroy evidence that they killed thousands of Muslim men seized in and around the town of Srebrenica in July. The Serbs are suspected of pouring corrosive chemicals on the bodies and scattering corpses that had been buried in mass graves, the officials said. The suspicions first arose in early August, after Central Intelligence Agency experts analyzed pictures of the area taken in July by reconnaissance satellites and U-2 planes." With the absence of traces of a corrosive substance, when it comes time to dig up the "evidence," the entire legend falls flat. Another explanation had to be found: the bodies were simply dug up and moved someplace else. This excuse has its advantages: With the needle in the haystack search for "mass graves," the tribunal could keep the public at bay for quite a while. But also disadvantages: How do you remove thousands of buried, decomposing bodies without being seen by the "watchful eye" of Madeleine Albright's satellites? Undismayed by this factual detail, the Tribunal and media continue their course...
It was on the basis of these photos that the Security Council and tribunal accused the Serbian leadership of having committed a massacre. The Tribunal's indictments against Karadzic and Mladic were primarily based on faith in the journalists' faith in the Security Council's faith in the CIA and its spy photos. Neither the press nor the tribunal were given access to all of the photos, yet both take it for granted that the Bosnian leaders are "guilty as charged."
But once the indictment handed down, the Bosnian Serb leaders shut out of negotiations and the Serbian President Milosevic under effective threat (that he too could suffer the fate of his Bosnian Serb Brethren), the Clinton Administration showed little interest in helping "further the cause of justice."
And the Utashe are not even comparable to any behavior on the part of Serbs. To suggest this is outrageous. The Utashe horrified the Nazis with their cruelty, and stand alone in history, imo, as the most evil of all parties anywhere.
They (so californians) might have to. The UN MIGHT ultimately demand that we hand California over to Mexico, as farmerbrown notes. The logic is identical. We've got to give Kosovo back to Serbia; the precedent cannot be allowed to stand.
Their pleas include references to the efforts to hide the evidence of the mass executions.
You should feel foolish still trying to deny what has become painfully obvious, Joan.
The utter stupidity of Milosevic's defenders never ceases to amaze.
Right on. No doubt about it.
And the Utashe are not even comparable to any behavior on the part of Serbs.
Well, the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs did happen. Just because all three sides did it to each other in Bosnia doesn't make it okay that the Serbs did it. This corresponds directly to a third of the Ustashe's "final solution" for the Serbs of expel one third, convert one third to Catholicism and kill one third. Granted the orders to commit attrocities and massacres didn't come from the top as it did during the WW2 Ustashe regime, but enough paramilitary groups and spontaneous Serbian militias committed enough nastiness to muddy the Serbs' name. I've talked to several of the Serbs that took part in these crimes and a deep sense of remorse can be felt in their presence as well as a lack of life in their eyes. I'm certain that they're going to have to carry that burden the rest of their lives.
The Utashe horrified the Nazis with their cruelty, and stand alone in history, imo, as the most evil of all parties anywhere.
I whole heartedly agree. They placed 18 members of my family in a Serbian church in Krajina during WW2 and burned the church to the ground killing all of them.
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